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Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 12 Mar 2019, 23:02
by speed2
In other words no. Just another bs claim where you make fool of yourself.

What you describe here would desync the game as well.

Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 13 Mar 2019, 04:17
by Dro
Hey thats pretty toxic!

Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 13 Mar 2019, 21:01
by PhilipJFry
Evildrew wrote:Anyway, if you care to check, play with someone who uses different target priorities that are used in a battle and then test if the replay desyncs in the vault if you want empirical evidence for or against...

i did test it
it didn't desync the replay
now can you please come with some evidence for your claim instead of making accusations and demand that others provide evidence of your claims being untrue

Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2019, 16:24
by AdmiralZeech
Personally I think basing your game design around unit behaviour being deliberately stupid or your UI being deliberately shit is not in the spirit of SupCom / TA. We have Starcraft for that.

The competitive / balance / gameplay implications can be solved in other ways.

Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2019, 17:39
by Dro
AdmiralZeech wrote:Personally I think basing your game design around unit behaviour being deliberately stupid or your UI being deliberately shit is not in the spirit of SupCom / TA. We have Starcraft for that.

The competitive / balance / gameplay implications can be solved in other ways.


Cant really see what side of the fence ur on here

Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2019, 19:34
by UnorthodoxBox
Personally, I have been using the Advanced Targeting Priorities mod since snipe mode was put into the main faf game. It does create an advantage of course, but so far it has not won any games for me. The thing is, you can't just yeet some units into an enemy base and select the "power" prioritization and cripple the opponents power. You still have to think about what you are doing and whether the sacrifice of 15 t2 units on the opponent's doorstep is worth killing a single t2 pgen.

That being said, I wouldn't care if the mod was removed or implemented, I'm fine with either. I guess the point I am making is that it does not change the game all too much, it just removes the need to manually target things which should already be priority #1.

For snipe mode, however, I agree that it does drastically change the game. Many times I have killed someone who has equal units to me, but because they were in front of their army, I can just set snipe mode and kill them as they try to run behind their units. Another cool trick is to set t2/t3 gunships to snipe mode, and while above an acu that has flak, you can actually dodge the flak shots.

tldr; snipe mode bad, target priorities meh
(to clarify, when saying snipe mode, I am referencing the snipe option in target priorities. I am saying all options are somewhat fine, except the snipe option, which seems a bit powerful)

Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2019, 23:18
by Anihilnine
Yeah the big issue I have is you can't run away with acu. All those near misses were great gameplay. For example monkey is in your base, you run away. You are in range side but monkey won't actually shoot you because it shoots other things. If it targets you, it stops and you get away. That's all good stuff in my opinion.

Then add in snipe mode and the game becomes dry. there are lots of things I wouldn't dare to do again

Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2019, 23:19
by Anihilnine
Although I see the Zeeches point it's probably better to balance it a different way.

Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 14 Mar 2019, 23:20
by Anihilnine
Also isn't just 1v1 theta fighting different now because acu doesn't tank damage? I haven't played for months

Re: Important: Changeable Target Priorities are unfair/cheat

PostPosted: 15 Mar 2019, 16:53
by Dro
i think the change is good but if people are complaining about the survivability of acus maybe the balance team could look into buffing upgrades again ?