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Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby Titantula » 20 Sep 2018, 15:21

I propose an online petition:

The aim of the petition is to convince Chris Taylor to start a crowdfunding campaign to receive £500,000 for a new Supreme Commander RTS. The £500,000 target should be to show there is enough demand for a complex RTS similar to Supreme Commander (Vanilla) and Forged Alliance. Not another Supcom2 or PA!!!

The current game is 10 years old, lacks multi-core support, has outed graphics, and with other RTS games than have come along over the years there is nothing to surpass Supreme Commander. There is (in my opinion) a untapped market there which would make millions.

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Re: Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby moonbearonmeth » 20 Sep 2018, 15:44

Can I post below if I don't agree?
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Re: Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby uzurpator » 20 Sep 2018, 17:01

I'm a software developer. Pay me, I'll make it. At least the core engine.

EDIT: I'm serious.
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Re: Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby PsychoBoB » 20 Sep 2018, 17:30

Titantula wrote:... receive £500,000 for a new Supreme Commander RTS...

Supreme Commander 1 including Forged Alliance hast cost about 10-12 Million $ ten years ago. So what do you think a developer studio can achieve with 500,000 Pounds?
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Re: Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby Endranii » 20 Sep 2018, 17:49

For 500k they can at least try to get the trademark from WG XD
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Re: Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby Louvegarde » 20 Sep 2018, 18:55

I'm a software developer. Pay me, I'll make it. At least the core engine.

EDIT: I'm serious.


If you're a software developer suggesting to make the core engine of a AAA RTS all alone from scratch, you may be serious, but you're certainly not credible.

Now Chris Taylor is Chris Taylor. If he had wanted to make supcom3, or even another sequel to TA, he would've done it by now. His mind is on other projects. Trying to gather money to "convince" him to "come back" to the scene to make a supcom 3 is very delusional. It also implies that the presence of Chris Taylor is mandatory to make a good sequel to Supcom, which I don't really believe true.

Everyday I see lots of projects like this on the internet, people trying to get together to make a game - which is cool - but having in mind a AAA scope for the game with ridiculous expectations, and announcing prices which makes them look like they're not planning to pay their developers - which is less cool.

Like psychobob say :
Supreme Commander 1 including Forged Alliance hast cost about 10-12 Million $ ten years ago. So what do you think a developer studio can achieve with 500,000 Pounds?

Just make a google search, guys. You don't seem to have any idea how much it costs to make even a small, indie videogame. Starting with a "Supreme commander" sequel with no actual knowledge nor cost prevision capacity is plain ridiculous.

You want to show there are enough people who would pay a nowadays AAA price for a new RTS like TA/PA/Supcom ? Okay. Make a survey. Not a kickstarter, just a survey, "yes" "no". Share it and see where it takes you, first. I would be curious to know what it gives.
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Re: Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby uteten » 20 Sep 2018, 19:30

Maybe we should collect the money in a currency that wont make the ruble look good in a couple of months.
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Re: Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby Franck83 » 20 Sep 2018, 19:41

Titantula wrote:I propose an online petition:

The aim of the petition is to convince Chris Taylor to start a crowdfunding campaign to receive £500,000 for a new Supreme Commander RTS. The £500,000 target should be to show there is enough demand for a complex RTS similar to Supreme Commander (Vanilla) and Forged Alliance. Not another Supcom2 or PA!!!

The current game is 10 years old, lacks multi-core support, has outed graphics, and with other RTS games than have come along over the years there is nothing to surpass Supreme Commander. There is (in my opinion) a untapped market there which would make millions.

Post below if you agree


Ty for the initiative. You can achieve nothing if you don't try. 100 people will say your idea is bad, but 10 will support you.

Maybe the RTS scene will change soon with Age of Empire 4. Blizzard seems working on a secret RTS project.

Ashes of the singularity is a 1.5 millions $ game. The engine is crazy enough to bring a new Supcom (http://oxidegames.com/products/nitrous-2/). It would be better to focus on gameplay / ui / art design.
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Re: Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby PsychoBoB » 20 Sep 2018, 20:29

Franck83 wrote:Ashes of the singularity is a 1.5 millions $ game. The engine is crazy enough to bring a new Supcom (http://oxidegames.com/products/nitrous-2/). It would be better to focus on gameplay / ui / art design.

I don't have any clue what it would cost to license the Nitrous engine for a game...
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Re: Online Petition (Supreme Commander 2020)

Postby tatsu » 20 Sep 2018, 21:49

PsychoBoB wrote:I don't have any clue what it would cost to license the Nitrous engine for a game...

Probably moot :

  • worth it in the grand scheme (making a whole engine from scratch is too hard)
  • I wouldn't really be satisfied with a supcom-like game in that engine, it bears too many flaws, no navy, no non-hover land units that can be on land without slip-n-sliding, there's just too much to fix in this engine

overall it's a tough question whether one should pick this engine or not but the reason isn't cost : there isn't anything in the way of a better alternative. If you go Unreal Engine or CryEngine or Unity your game will look stunning but your armies will consist of 50 units and you won't get to have strat zoom.
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