Rating System needs changes.

[B_U_F_F_I_T_U_P]

To many players on FAF are not playing there rating. to many times have i and many others look at the players name instead of their rating. why is this? because people dont play their rating. plan and simple. this makes it harder to balance games. since we are looking at their name instead of their rating we know which players actual dont play that good. Now everyone is going to put that player that sucks but has high rating on the other team and give them a good player by name. We all do this. This doesn't happen once your 1600+ playing with people who are actually good. thats the biggest reason for me wanting to get 1500+. just so i can play with people who are good. Its not very fun when the game is unbalanced. i have stopped playing this long for long periods of time because of this issues. i believe we can fix this by having two different play list areas, like we have with co op and play. instead of play we put Party games and Ranked games. Party games sounds just like it is. we have Phantom x, murder party etc... for rank we have normal 1v1 2v2 4v4 5v5 6v6 etcc.... both having different ratings. my rating in rank doesn't go in to party games lobbys and its the other way around. . and by not letting GAP count as a ranked map play. This will also show us how FAF is growing.

[tatsu]

I mean yeah rating system can always get better. but have you seen starcraft's rating system? Rocket league?

over there the "rating being diametrically opposed to the player" phenomenon is tenfold.

Just be aware over here things aren't half bad all things considered.

but if you want it upgraded I'm sure anyone can agree. we do need hands on deck for the dev work though, can you volunteer?

[jackherer]

I Think you should be 1300 indeed. And plz stop feeding points to Sid with GB team.
Joke apart, yea always same conclusion, you take global rating for a rank instead of a tool to balance that is innacurate, also for 1600+ btw.
A Teamgame matchmaker and the end of rating for custom teamgame would fix that, but no one can code it.
Some change in the rating display could help, but no one want to change that, too delicate subject... And dev dont play the game so they have no idea how rating issues is a brake for the game expansion.

[tatsu]

I Think you should be 1300 indeed. And plz stop feeding points to Sid with GB team.
Joke apart, yea always same conclusion, you take global rating for a rank instead of a tool to balance that is innacurate, also for 1600+ btw.
A Teamgame matchmaker and the end of rating for custom teamgame would fix that, but no one can code it.

so far so good. yes I agree. although "none can code it"... debatable. but I agree

Some change in the rating display could help, but no one want to change that, too delicate subject... And dev dont play the game so they have no idea how rating issues are a brake for the game expansion.

no. what?

first off the devs for the most part are not top ladder players granted. but downlord's whopped my ass a bunch of times annihilanine can talywhack me and I'm pretty sure speed2 beats you.

so hold your horses with the "devs don't play" theme this happens to be the rare game where that adage is false.

furthermore I don't think these changes "won't happen because noone wants to touch rating display, too delicate a subject".

rating as a whole sure why not. rating display? no real harm can come of trying something new out for a week (heck, even a month).

I think if there's any real barrier to this it's lack of manpower not unwillingness to be hit with the "you did it wrong stick".

this, contrary to server code isn't "forward only" type code. you can always easily revert it. so no real harm in trying changes.

I think for example that the fix for rating preventing it from displaying -600 and displaying 0 or "unranked" instead from that other thread is something that's going to happen soon.

[TheKoopa]

Too many players on FAF are not playing their rating. Too many times I have (and many others) looked at the player's name instead of their rating. Why is this? Because people don't play their rating. Plain and simple. It makes it harder to balance games. Since we are looking at their name instead of their rating, we know which players actually don't play that well. Now everyone is going to put that player that sucks but has high rating on the other team and give them a good player by name. We all do this. This doesn't happen once you're 1600+ playing with people who are actually good. That's the biggest reason for me wanting to get 1500+. Just so I can play with people who are good. It's not very fun when the game is unbalanced. I have stopped playing (unnecessary add-on) for long periods of time because of these issues. I believe we can fix this by having two different play list areas, like how we have with co-op and a seperate play games tab. Instead of play we put Party games and Ranked games. Party games sounds just like what it is. We have Phantom x, murder party etc... for rank we have normal 1v1 2v2 4v4 5v5 6v6 etcc.... both having different ratings. My rating in rank doesn't apply in party games lobbies and it goes the other way around...and by not letting Gap of Rohan count as a ranked map play. This will also show us how FAF is growing.

F for grammar and spelling, see me after class

[jackherer]

Speed isn't an active player, downloard isn't brutus isn't duke isn't sheoo isn't icedreamer isn't....
I dont say they are bad i'm just saying they dont experience the game like a daily player.

Rating didn't move since Zep change it after an anger crisis ....

So get down of your horse tatsu

[TheKoopa]

Speed isn't an active player, downloard isn't brutus isn't duke isn't sheoo isn't icedreamer isn't....
I dont say they are bad i'm just saying they dont experience the game like a daily player.

Rating didn't move since Zep change it after an anger crisis ....

So get down of your horse tatsu

Pretty sure that sheeo changed it to make it easier to lose/win rating somewhere in between here and zep quitting

[jackherer]

Yea something change in trueskill calcul for sure since like 2 year, points are mooving faster. But it does not change the rating experience at all.
Last visible change was Zep making number round because he was tired of ppl thinking it was a rank and whining about it.

[Morax]

Not enough people fought back when they started ranking multiple mods so if enough people decide to actually step up and speak maybe it will be considered.

For now, all I can say is that I agree.

[B_U_F_F_I_T_U_P]

Too many players on FAF are not playing their rating. Too many times I have (and many others) looked at the player's name instead of their rating. Why is this? Because people don't play their rating. Plain and simple. It makes it harder to balance games. Since we are looking at their name instead of their rating, we know which players actually don't play that well. Now everyone is going to put that player that sucks but has high rating on the other team and give them a good player by name. We all do this. This doesn't happen once you're 1600+ playing with people who are actually good. That's the biggest reason for me wanting to get 1500+. Just so I can play with people who are good. It's not very fun when the game is unbalanced. I have stopped playing (unnecessary add-on) for long periods of time because of these issues. I believe we can fix this by having two different play list areas, like how we have with co-op and a seperate play games tab. Instead of play we put Party games and Ranked games. Party games sounds just like what it is. We have Phantom x, murder party etc... for rank we have normal 1v1 2v2 4v4 5v5 6v6 etcc.... both having different ratings. My rating in rank doesn't apply in party games lobbies and it goes the other way around...and by not letting Gap of Rohan count as a ranked map play. This will also show us how FAF is growing.

I will fix it man. I posted this late at night. i didn't even check for grammer errors.
F for grammar and spelling, see me after class