Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

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Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby Plasma_Wolf » 07 Jun 2017, 23:20

Is the targeting priority of the ACU being changed every other patch?

Some time ago I lost a game I was winning because my ACU decided Auto-OC should be targeting an enemy unit instead of the ACU (manual OC would mean the ACU would get away as I would stand still for a moment).

Now I lost a game I was winning because the ACU decided all enemy shots should be targeting the ACU instead of the units that (at first) were at the far end of my range but ended up blocking me from dive into the water because. If the actual units were targeted I'd have made it (or possibly wiped out that entire army).

Just why? What's the targeting priority and can't we have a setting to switch between :"ACU first" or "ACU last"?
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Re: Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby keyser » 08 Jun 2017, 01:25

well usually it's ACU last, but depends on situation, if you start firing at acu, because there were no other unit in range, then it will keep shooting at the ACU even if there is unit that come into range afterward. You can target manually another unit, then your acu will target other unit (and not the acu) after killing the unit you targeted manually.
Auto-OC will always shoot at unit instead of ACU, so if you want to land that crucial last One, be sure to remove the auto OC at to fire the last shot at your opponent ACU.
I'm begging since ages for someone to work back on domino's mod : "target painter"; so we can actually set ourself the targeting while still moving (giving move order).
But no, nothing change in targeting lately.
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Re: Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby Farmsletje » 08 Jun 2017, 01:42

I think if you specifically target the acu with yours, wait for it to fire atleast 1 shot and then start moving the auto OC will also be targetted at the acu, not sure though.

And when you target other units like keyser said i also think you have to wait for your acu to fire the first shot. If you manually attack another unit and instantly give a move order after that it will keep attacking the other acu.
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Re: Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby Lieutenant Lich » 08 Jun 2017, 02:24

How do I auto-OC? :roll:
Don't complain about that which you aren't willing to change.

My mod:
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Re: Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby Freedomfighter » 13 Jun 2017, 13:21

Plasma_Wolf wrote:Just why? What's the targeting priority and can't we have a setting to switch between :"ACU first" or "ACU last"?


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Re: Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby Ithilis_Quo » 13 Jun 2017, 17:22

because it dont have setup proper target priority, so in some special (rare) situation it cause that acu start target something that you definitly not want, and way how to change it is go out of range. I send fix for this to balance team that was ignored. But, as ussual its fixed in equilibrium
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Re: Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby biass » 13 Jun 2017, 17:29

Ithilis_Quo wrote: But, as ussual its fixed in equilibrium


Ithilis_Quo wrote: But, as ussual its not in changelog


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Re: Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby keyser » 13 Jun 2017, 22:19

I send fix for this to balance team that was ignored.

I had no idea you have a fix for this. But if balance team decided to not go for your "fix", then there is chance they evaluate the drawback to be worst than current situation.

can't find anything about that in here : http://equilibrium.x10host.com/changelog/ apart of the fact that you made ACU the first priority for lot of unit, which isn't a fix at all since it give large drawback. (Usually (not always) you want to kill army before attacking the ACU.) (but it's not even the purpose of this thread anyway)

anyway i'm pretty sure your "fix" (since i'm not even sure what it is) is nowhere near the domino's mod that i explained above. And this would more belong in the "territory" of Icedreamer (and not Jagged) since it's more about improving the overall game, and not a balance issue.
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Re: Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby Exotic_Retard » 13 Jun 2017, 23:37

ok so to clear up a couple of misconceptions here

so when you say a lot, you mean labs (you know, for ghetto snipes)

and then all of 3 units:
obsidians, which have a short range so if you are that close to the acu you very most likely have a reason to be there.
and then hoplites and mongeese which have long range, so that means you either have his acu in front or you can control what you fire at by moving

no need to be so salty? i guess? and would be nice to do a bit more research before making statements and assumptions.


also about the fix, thats just ithilis misremembering as usual, we fixed the target priorities for the acu regular gun (to not the acu mind you xD)
interestingly the target priorities for oc and auto oc are the same, and actually make sense for once.

so yeah, false alarm?
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Re: Why does my ACU always target the wrong thing?

Postby keyser » 14 Jun 2017, 01:04

So yeah i did my research before : labs in GGs; mongoose, hoplite, obsidian, GC, Monkeylord, Megalith, Ythotha and the Fatboy. So to me it makes lots of unit.
Usually (not always) you want to kill army before attacking the ACU.

still can work for exp from time to time, for example you don't want your fatboy to waste his dps on a shield com that can be dodging, while there is army/exp near by.
And that does also stand with other exp depending of situation. This doesn't mean that the change for exp is bad though.

So I could say that it would be nice at least that know what is in your own mod, but i don't want to be salty like you are. (wasn't salty at all before)

But this is not the point of the discussion at all.

Anyway the solution still stand in that domino's mod.
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