T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

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T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby zachyattacky » 25 Jan 2017, 21:59

Last night I was playing a ladder game against a player with a little bit higher rank than I (he was rated at 1200).

I had just got off work and was falling asleep so I ended up getting a little behind in the tech rush so I decided for an air snipe since I had the opportunity.

Luckily I'd been monitoring his ACU position (isolated off to the far end mex group on Goodlands). As far as I could tell I could easily take air control.

After accidentally building some torpedo bombers I made some Corsairs and sniped him around the 18 minute mark.

After-the-fact I was wondering about situations where the t2 snipe was available would it be better to build GS or T2 bombers. If anyone has time I would like to know what are some situations you've experienced where one was better than the other? I imagine if there is any amount of flak present that the time that gunships would be worse off than the bombers...

Time to kill = less with gunships
Gunships are tougher (more hp)
Bombers are faster on larger maps
Are things I've concluded (I think these are correct at least)

Add edit: and janus don't as good of snipers
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Re: T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby Wesmania » 26 Jan 2017, 12:53

T2 gunships are obliterated by flak or even enough t1 aa, so they're only good for sniping if you have enough of them to kill any AA first or tank the damage. T2 bombers can deal burst damage and then get away from AA, but they can be pretty reliably dodged. Ironically it made janus the most consistent t2 bomber for killing ACUs.
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Re: T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby keyser » 26 Jan 2017, 13:44

i would still go for corsair over janus for sniping
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Re: T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby Nepty » 26 Jan 2017, 14:48

keyser wrote:i would still go for corsair over janus for sniping


Yeah but the Janus use napalm rockets, and not anime missiles like the weeboo Corsair... :P

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Re: T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby Exotic_Retard » 26 Jan 2017, 15:29

Nepty wrote:Yeah but the Janus use napalm rockets
please. those are clearly bombs. bombs that are launched backwards after appearing on the very tips of the wings.
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you know, like real bombers.
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Re: T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby biass » 26 Jan 2017, 17:06

Wesmania wrote:Ironically it made janus the most consistent t2 bomber for killing ACUs.


lol good one almost chuckled

in truth, you can still snipe an acu with gunships, making one flak gun doesnt make any sort of gunship snipe void, you could try to kill the flak or use some fighter bombers and then send the gunships in after the flak is gone.

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Re: T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby ZeRen » 26 Jan 2017, 17:10

keyser wrote:i would still go for corsair over janus for sniping


you need 3 corsairs to kill T2 mex, but you need 5 Januses for T2 mex, so small target not good for janus

for T2 power you need 2-3 corsairs or 3 januses

so yea corsair better
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Re: T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby JaggedAppliance » 26 Jan 2017, 17:22

If you're cybran you want to snipe with corsairs, not renegades. Renegades take some time to orient themselves and shoot and they have less dps than other gunships because they have aoe so they are bad at sniping flak and will take longer to kill the acu than other gunships. Corsairs have good damage, are kinda hard to dodge and can snipe flak.

With sera, gunships are probably better. You can snipe flak with them, you can even dodge flak shots with non-cybran gunships, while nothas are easy to dodge.

UEF should also go for gunships to snipe, janus are still quite easy to dodge if you have room. If the acu has some units in its way then you can maybe snipe him but you will likely never kill a flak with janus.
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Re: T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby JoonasTo » 26 Jan 2017, 17:37

Have you tried dodging Jani in the latest patch?
Because holy mother of god the sea of fire that appears from just 3 is immense.
1,8k damage is nothing to scoff at either. Sure, it takes some time to get there, so unlike corsair or notha, it won't be instant eradication but it's definitely more reliable than notha, and doesn't miss an ACU standing still like a corsair.
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Re: T2 Air Snipe --- Bomber vs Gunship

Postby Ithilis_Quo » 26 Jan 2017, 17:43

And janus also kill mobile shield (unit) with fire that let in ground. Dodge janus is very hard, if even posible. Also what it do in powerplants field is insine.
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