Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

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Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby Bittered » 14 Dec 2016, 00:13

So, I played for about a week. My winrate is near 30%. A couple of weird things (ofc all on my team):
- front guy on wonder goes double gun. From the start. Builds 0 combat units for 7 min. I am getting swarmed by 2 players. And hes 1000 rating?!?
- air dies to strats
- air dies to strats
- air dies to gunships
- everyone dies to gunships
- dc
- dc
- my first and game-chaging exp, a monkeylord gets stuck in shallow water, trying to go on land. No cliffs or smthing. After 2 minutes of unstucking I have to ctr + K it.
- dc
- leaver
- my comm stops to shoot and ultimately dies.
- my comm stops to shoot and ultimately dies.
- front guys gets t3 mexes when his mirror takes out 1/2 of my base with ..? you guessed it. UNITS. (cant respond cause holding own mirror). Then the ecowhore builds a monkeylord and ..... dunno. Contemplates it for 8 min? (no exp and handful t3 on other team, equal air). Then he makes a second one and charges both into ravagers + fatboy. Both die before reaching fire-base. Twin Rivers
- air gets t3 mexes. All front dies to enemy air, who stayed on t2 mexes. (early gunships)
- "Balance" gives me a 300 that afks
- "Balance" gives me a 500 that afks
- "Balance" gives me a 000 that afks
- guy dies to 1 -> 2 -> 5 cruisers. Or ctrl +K's? Ofc, once he lets to 5 cruisers he screams to me: "useless air, help! help!". Yup. Let me build 50 t2 torps (sera cruisers, some vetted) and not let front, sitting with a comm and mobile shield in enemy base die. Btw, it was Funeral plains or smthing. Not setons
- I die to min 7 corsairs. Air afks. (despite me dodging and pinging at the same time. f*** pings, I guess?)
- guy dies to scouted, pinged, said in chat air snipe (3 min before the snipe commences)

I wasnt playing for half a year. When I was leaving my general guide-rule was:
< 1000 rating: unreliable player
>= 1000 rating: reliable player
by "reliable" I mean: not doing thing above. Averagely competent.

Now, all those guys were 1000 rating or above. Wtf?

For 1 balanced, without stupid shit (not cheese, just stupidity or bitching) game I get ... hmmm... 4? shitty ones.
I cant even enjoy them. So disheartening they are. btw, I rarely get to exp stage. Games end (guess how?) long before that.

I remember other FAF. FAF with nice, knowledgable people. Pleasant games, even one that were lost. No plebs with rating above "noob".
I rarely enjoy a game now. They end quickly and stupidly.
I am not a pro. But not a fool as well. I feel helpless when suck things happen. I cant fix them.
Games are not expanding my game knowledge ("team lost to stupid stuff" is a basic, common knowledge. Not for everyone, I guess?). They arent pleasant (it stops to matter how I play. I either cover up for smone or helplessly watch dudes die to their, truly unimaginable, stupidity). And for, ... sake, they even dont last long! I spend like 3.5 times more time on waiting for a game than playing one.

My question is:
Is it so for everyone? (I am asking older players. Dont come at me with your Gap tragedies) Is community, both in manners and in skill degradate?
or is it just a long lasting miscluck streak/ being tired of the game after a couple of years.

btw, one more thing. I have over a thousand (!!!) games played. I can come into a lobby and often I can tell you how the game ends (air/side disbalance). I am 70% correct on my prediction. But host thinks its a "balanced" game. Even if its clearly not ...
same goes for in-game development. I can see when the game is lost. Its surprising how many people dont (ooh, they have 3 strats, 7 asf, and our air has 10 inties!. No tech 3 on field for us. Singular t3 mexes to almost full t3 for them. Near to 0 combat units. BUT WE CAN STILL WIN!). Games often are decided in the lobby and all I can play is a slow (or fast, if lucky) agony of my team. And ofc I cant host another game cause noone plays.
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Re: Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby Bittered » 14 Dec 2016, 00:16

One more thing. I had a couple of players on friend list. All, but one (sorry Parp :/) were skilled or very skilled aroun 1400. I mean, they were really good players. Were because I havent seen any of them, since I came back. Mb they discovered the same thing as I did and just left FAF. Wouldnt be that surprising to be honest.
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Re: Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby Sovietpride » 14 Dec 2016, 01:02

Take a note of whom youre playing with.
Find some reliable people.

This is why in team games i've settled on a play style of ignoring team mates and relying upon myself to win. Because that's all you can trust.
Ping snipe? they ignore it.
Tell people to go back? They ignore it.

So: you see a snipe, build flak+ shield for them if you can.
You see them dying, move engineers into their base.

You see tem without TMD, build it for them.

If you want to win, it can become a situation of being hte teams baby sitter.
Although if your air is dying to strats hes doing something really wrong.


Im a cynical twat, but, to me:
<1000 ye to learn to play the game at a basic level.
<1300 yet to discover flak.
<1500 yet to discover flak
<1600 yet to discover scouts.

1600+ start to be able to be counted on to not die within 10 minutes 95% of the time
1700+ able to work towards actually winning a game.
Farmsletje: Yet to figure out how to walk away from a nuke



But honestly, if you want out:
Consider making yourself/proving yourself to someone who is of a higher rating.
IF youre good, in most cases they'll be pretty happy to take you into their team games if you play higher than your rating, as a "balance slave" and to "stack it".
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Re: Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby Exotic_Retard » 14 Dec 2016, 01:03

fixed in equilibrium!
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Re: Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby CookieNoob » 14 Dec 2016, 01:15

as I am 1700+ I can only agree to Sovietpride xD
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Re: Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby Wesmania » 14 Dec 2016, 02:03

As a scrub I can confirm that a 1.3-1.5k player has plenty of potential to royally screw up. Best you can do is mercilessly exploit it with your enemy.
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Re: Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby Zock » 14 Dec 2016, 02:08

Sovietpride wrote:Take a note of whom youre playing with.
Find some reliable people.

This is why in team games i've settled on a play style of ignoring team mates and relying upon myself to win. Because that's all you can trust.
Ping snipe? they ignore it.
Tell people to go back? They ignore it.

So: you see a snipe, build flak+ shield for them if you can.
You see them dying, move engineers into their base.

You see tem without TMD, build it for them.

If you want to win, it can become a situation of being hte teams baby sitter.
Although if your air is dying to strats hes doing something really wrong.


Im a cynical twat, but, to me:
<1000 ye to learn to play the game at a basic level.
<1300 yet to discover flak.
<1500 yet to discover flak
<1600 yet to discover scouts.

1600+ start to be able to be counted on to not die within 10 minutes 95% of the time
1700+ able to work towards actually winning a game.
Farmsletje: Yet to figure out how to walk away from a nuke



But honestly, if you want out:
Consider making yourself/proving yourself to someone who is of a higher rating.
IF youre good, in most cases they'll be pretty happy to take you into their team games if you play higher than your rating, as a "balance slave" and to "stack it".


1800+ you can sometimes coordinate an aggressive strategy
1900+ people start to spam mongoose
gg no re

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Re: Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby Mad`Mozart » 14 Dec 2016, 08:22

At which rating people start spamming januses tho?
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Re: Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby CookieNoob » 14 Dec 2016, 09:53

Mad`Mozart wrote:At which rating people start spamming januses tho?


Even before the balance patch I saw some ~300 rated players use them more as intis. This is nothing special obviously.
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Re: Is it just me or FAF degenerated?

Postby zeroAPM » 14 Dec 2016, 11:58

Mad`Mozart wrote:At which rating people start spamming januses tho?

0
At 500 they generally go "what the [expletive] was i doing?" and start skipping t2 f/b again
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