Ladder is lame

[Cuddles]

Can we try the big pool again where we select maps? People still moan about maps they don't like and don't play. I don't really see any problems solved and the competitive guys stopped playing due to balance in any case.

[ZLO_RD]

make ladder great again!
biggest issue that people don't play no matter what.

ZLO rolls luxcuse wheel:
TheSetoner: todays excuse is - ladder bug

i liked previous system, i think it is superior, just need to tweak it: make less maps to choose from, make less stupid new maps in ladder, pseudo random maps to elliminate repeat, and maybe to completely veto certan maps.

[speed2]

Well you just need <insert PC's decision here>
and <insert volunteer who will code it here>

[Cuddles]

Whatever else it was, it was fun.

If we can make it fun again and continue having tournaments we could get a balance that cater to both casual and competitive players.

There is also the achievement system in downlords client that will appeal to casual players. His client is getting closer everyday to being a viable replacement if it's not already.

[Mad`Mozart]

I agree, ladder sucks massive balls now, and i gave up on it some time ago. But yeah, main reason it stays like that cause people who have coding skills give exactly no shits about it, and people who give some shits have no or not sufficient coding skills. Maybe something will actually change with new PC

Still was/is the primary way to play 1v1 and choosing a map every time you play custom game can be a pain. Thats where The Shaper comes into play. No more shit maps, no more repetition (unless you mind it), no more connection bugs. Totally superior to ladder except you fall out of 1v1 ranking, but hey with the (not so) recent rating bugs it not a problem too

[Exotic_Retard]

i just find it amusing how a bot has a better implementation than current ladder system xD
another KEY advantage of said bot is you can play ladder with equilibrium that way

/me hides

[ZLO_RD]

i just find it amusing how a bot has a better implementation than current ladder system xD
another KEY advantage of said bot is you can play ladder with equilibrium that way

/me hides

if only bot could host a game for you to join to

[Lieutenant Lich]

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[prodromos]

Ladder can be anything you wish!

But the worst thing of all is it's unplayable due to connectivity issues.
Whine as much as you like about the subtleties you have in your mind(I have my own too), but you
can't ignore two basic problems:

People can't play it because they can't connect.
Leaderboards is broken. A healthy competition requires a working scores board with ratings
leagues and divisions.


So, instead of delving into unit stats and "balance" try instead to solve more basic problems.

[biass]

Almost nailed it, except the people doing balance cannot code,