Monotonous matches to watch ..

[MrTBSC]

i don´t realy play FA (stopped after GPGNet went down) but watch matches for the most part ... i can´t help but feel that more and more the matches ( and i particularly speak about groundplay here) became monotounous with players not realy varieing up their play or tactics ... the general play is either spam low tech or slowly but surely build up to experimental and then spam that ... the general play is all about assault despite the game offering a broader unitvariety at least on paper but next to none of them is realy used ... maybe every 8th or 10th game you see t3 mobile artillery be used or MML´s ... even rarer is the use of mobile shields or stealth ... harrarasment is primarily done with standart assaultunits as well instead of f.e. labs or similarly quick units with high rate of fire ...

so yea i miss people making use of the unitpool as a whole, i miss use of unitcompositions other than standart assault with some aa

it feels like players are not motivated to make use of something else allong with their standartplay

i can´t realy talk about ballance .. i can only say what i wish to see more ... say have firebettles be more used as antiarmy or structure then pure acusnipe same with mercies .. have some units have more aoe against swarms (why no one uses hoplites?) .. examples like these

the thing is the current way groundplay is shown matches often feel drawn out before something realy intresting happens and you just see always the same 3 or 4 assault units be used that just aren´t realy all that intresting to watch
making the so called "EPIC"matches rather dull to watch ...

[codepants]

IMO gameplay has never really been that varied, it's only in 15-20% of matches you see the game not decided in the first 15-20 minutes. In the other 80-85% of games one team makes an egregious mistake, gets sniped, swarmed, etc.

Is it disappointing? Yea, a bit.

But for me it's also what keeps me coming back for more. For instance, I really like making armies of RAS SACUs and building stuff with them. Guess how often a game gets to that stage? Maybe one game a week if I play 2-3 games every other day. For people who like doing that and nothing else, there's Gap and Thermo.

What's the solution? Play, get good at early game so you make it to late game, and choose factions that favor variety, like sera. Everybody thinks sera sucks at t3, that's because everybody only sees people spam chickens or tanks... a good t3 sera player mixes tanks, sniper bots, shields, and chickens. But people like convenience. They want something that they can spam that works every time.

If you want to start a clan that only does crazy stuff I'm all in. I'll do crazy stuff with you. Be the change you want to see. Invite your friends. If people see replays that show the value of doing crazy stuff, they will be more likely to do it.

[Morax]

The games are boring because people have discovered how to best get the job done with minimal effort...

We are in the middle of introducing some changes to the balance / mechanics so that it freshens up a bit, so sit tight if ya can.

Also, try and watch high-level players verse the "average joes" if you want to see good gameplay.

[Zock]

..maybe you just watch the wrong games.

[Nepty]

Old, but good. Cybran wanted to play Starship troopers. They are the bugs. I really like this replay.

[keyser]

#notueffanboyatall

[Nepty]

#notueffanboyatall

#Triggered

[Lieutenant Lich]

Why would you use labs in a direct assault force? they raid good but nothing else.

[prodromos]

Because it is much harder to implement innovative strategies in the heat of the battle.

This game , in fact all games that have a resemblance to supcom, require huge brainpower.

You have to track a vast battlefield and your opponent is not going to wait until you come up with a
groundbreaking strategy. So, most of the "moves" necessarily are reflex moves for a great number of players.

Nothing to be ashamed of. If you watch replays of top players , though , you will find what you seek.
It is a real treat to watch them. I think you should , too.

P.S. Plus having a game that reaches to t3 or t4, or that uses all of the units , in your arsenal, is not necessarily
going to be interesting, as such games tend to degenerate into farm building, with slow decision making.
If you play for an hour with almost no action it is natural that you will reach t4 and chances are that you will build everything that can be built.
This does not mean you will evade monotony. The good game is not the one you build yet again the next experimental in your building queue. And of course
it is not epic to build a huge army. Epic is to cause most damage with the least amount of units.

[Morax]

Seriosuly, Nepty? You posted a replay of a broken map as reference when there are far better?

MrTBsC, look at how LuXun uses tmls to kill percies on this map as Sera where there is obviously a huge disadvantage at t3. There are PLENTY of games out there where people use all the tools available to win matches.