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Postby SeraphimLeftNut » 06 Apr 2016, 02:54

I have tested 3 different dvi cables, 1 display port cable and 1 hdmi cable.

The hdmi cable solves the ui lag problem.
The other cables are all pretty much the same laggy shit.

Please let me know if you have any idea about why this is. I know online people like to say bs like, hdmi and dvi are exactly the same.
no ui lag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MdcVdL2kIY
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Re: please state your ideas about this

Postby Valki » 06 Apr 2016, 07:58

That's really weird, DVI is a pure unencrypted signal so it should be better than both HDMI and Displayport.
Displayport is better than HDMI in terms of latency (by a few ms) and bandwidth.

Though neither accounts for your monitors inner workings, nor for your graphics card.

It would be interesting to plug in a different monitor and see if you still have UI lag on DVI/Displayport with those.
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Re: please state your ideas about this

Postby SeraphimLeftNut » 06 Apr 2016, 12:11

I have tested 4 different monitors with dvi cables.(and yes the lag is there) Only 1 monitor with hdmi. Will have to check if I can stick hdmi into other monitors.
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Re: please state your ideas about this

Postby Valki » 06 Apr 2016, 13:28

A problem with HDMI for gamers is that it has limited refresh rates. Old HDMI cables were limited to 60 Hz for 1080p, new HDMI does better allthough HDMI at 4K is limited to 30 Hz.

You could check your refresh rate settings, maybe your computer is set to a 60+ Hz refresh rate that your monitors have trouble with. By using (old) HDMI you would limit that to 60 Hz, matching your HDMI's monitors optimal refresh rate. The DVI-D's could however send the too-high refresh rate to your monitors...

Try using a 60 Hz refresh rate, see if it makes a difference.
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Re: please state your ideas about this

Postby SeraphimLeftNut » 06 Apr 2016, 15:04

HDMI is at 60 Hz.
The display is ASUS VG248 and I have tried running it between 60 and 144 Hz on both dvi-d and display port.
It is butter smooth on 144Hz in windows. However inside FA, there are major problems with stutter.(particularly against laggers)
There is no ui lag early on but as the game progresses it becomes apparent.
This is the problem that HDMI seems to have solved(at least for now).

One thing that hdmi allows, is to set "content type reported to the display"
that other formats do not allow.

This probably is not the cause of the issue.
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Re: please state your ideas about this

Postby tatsu » 06 Apr 2016, 17:31

SeraphimLeftNut wrote:The hdmi cable solves the ui lag problem.

this is voodoo superstition at this point.
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Re: please state your ideas about this

Postby Exotic_Retard » 06 Apr 2016, 18:24

pretty sure Voodoo doesn't believe in the powers of hdmi cables.

or anything at all for that matter ._.
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Re: please state your ideas about this

Postby Viba » 06 Apr 2016, 19:07

Why not try turning the lights on and off in a rapid succession, that way the brain gets fooled to a lower "frame rate" and UI lag disappears. Just like on the dance floor with the strobo lights.
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Re: please state your ideas about this

Postby Zoram » 06 Apr 2016, 19:15

Viba wrote:Why not try turning the lights on and off in a rapid succession, that way the brain gets fooled to a lower "frame rate" and UI lag disappears. Just like on the dance floor with the strobo lights.

Haha, good test for epilepsy detection ;)
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Re: please state your ideas about this

Postby SeraphimLeftNut » 06 Apr 2016, 19:42

tatsu wrote:
SeraphimLeftNut wrote:The hdmi cable solves the ui lag problem.

this is voodoo superstition at this point.


I wish I could agree, based on everything I have read online this should not occur, hence this post.

However, the effect is unmistakable.

I played my wwpc games with hdmi cable. Then switched to display port against nexus for some ladder. Then switched back to hdmi and played some more ladder. The lag difference between these games was not mistakable.
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