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Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted again

Postby Sovietpride » 13 Jan 2016, 08:26

Steps to reproduce:

1) scout enemy radar.
2) enemy radar upgades.
3) Give order to attack enemy radar once upgraded

The attack order will fizzle. '

Once the structure has been scouted again, it can be targetted normally.

Interesting note: Whilst other upgradable structures (mex/factories) will "grey out" as if destroyed when upgraded, upgraded radars do not grey out.
Maybe its related?
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Re: Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted aga

Postby Zock » 13 Jan 2016, 08:28

Doesn't this apply to all upgradable buildings?
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Re: Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted aga

Postby ZLO_RD » 13 Jan 2016, 08:37

It does apply to all upgraided or rebuild or given to ally buildings.
But i think they can be trageted by your units automaticly, it is just you can't click there cause old icon is covering new one
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Re: Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted aga

Postby keyser » 13 Jan 2016, 14:03

Yes it should be targetable but then that could be abuse to determine if it is a dead unit or an upgraded one. (the dead wouldn t be targetable..)
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Re: Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted aga

Postby ZLO_RD » 13 Jan 2016, 15:43

Huh, i thought you can actually tell that just by looking, tho whatever it is it needs to be in radar range
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Re: Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted aga

Postby Sovietpride » 13 Jan 2016, 17:18

Zock wrote:Doesn't this apply to all upgradable buildings?




the problem is that the radars dont get greyed out like upgradable buildings.
whilst not being able to target upgradeable buildings may in itself be an issue, at least we know something is happenning.
This was not the case with radars.
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Re: Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted aga

Postby VoiceofReason » 13 Jan 2016, 17:24

Sovietpride wrote:
Zock wrote:Doesn't this apply to all upgradable buildings?




the problem is that the radars dont get greyed out like upgradable buildings.
whilst not being able to target upgradeable buildings may in itself be an issue, at least we know something is happenning.
This was not the case with radars.



Wait, RADARS don't get greyed out...

Sorry to hijack your thread SovietPride, but this is important! I thought once upon a time, coders and the community looked into making it so upgraded buildings don't give FREE intel to opponents; and it was deemed impossible because engine limitations or something like that (afaik.) This gives me new hope tho, radars upgrade no differently than any other upgradeable building right? Can maybe someone look into why the Radar doesn't grey out when advancing tiers and possibly add this FIX to all upgradable buildings so we can stop giving free intel through the fog of war?
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Re: Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted aga

Postby Col_Walter_Kurtz » 13 Jan 2016, 17:29

VoiceofReason wrote:
Sovietpride wrote:
Zock wrote:Doesn't this apply to all upgradable buildings?




the problem is that the radars dont get greyed out like upgradable buildings.
whilst not being able to target upgradeable buildings may in itself be an issue, at least we know something is happenning.
This was not the case with radars.



Wait, RADARS don't get greyed out...

Sorry to hijack your thread SovietPride, but this is important! I thought once upon a time, coders and the community looked into making it so upgraded buildings don't give FREE intel to opponents; and it was deemed impossible because engine limitations or something like that (afaik.) This gives me new hope tho, radars upgrade no differently than any other upgradeable building right? Can maybe someone look into why the Radar doesn't grey out when advancing tiers and possibly add this FIX to all upgradable buildings so we can stop giving free intel through the fog of war?


Good point. free intel on upgrades / eco is counter intuitive, unfair and bizarre in an rts.
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Re: Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted aga

Postby JaggedAppliance » 13 Jan 2016, 17:42

Radars do grey out when upgraded.
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Re: Bug: Upgraded radars are untargettable until scouted aga

Postby Sovietpride » 13 Jan 2016, 18:03

Well.

Title is now misleading as i cannot reproduce it.

however, in this replay: content.faforever.com/faf/vault/replay_vault/replay.php?id=4307216

from my perspective at least the radar goes to t2 without going grey.

Likewise: content.faforever.com/faf/vault/replay_vault/replay.php?id=4304100

From plzhalpimsobad at minute 14:30, the middle radar is upgrading to t2, it does not grey out. (I asked a few people to watch and they confirm i am not insane)
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