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External APM app - post your results!

Postby Blodir » 13 Oct 2015, 20:37

What is APM?

"APM is short for "Actions per Minute" and is an average or instantaneous measure of the rate at which a player can perform actions" - Liquipedia

How to measure your APM properly

    1. Download, install and run Desktop APM http://www.desktopapm.com/
    2. Search for a ladder game
    3. Check your APM from the Desktop APM Timeline
    4. Post your results in this thread! (preferably with your rating and the map you played along with the replay id)

Why not just use replay parser?

The parser only has access to information in the replay which means leaving out a bunch of what you are doing, Desktop APM will measure all actions taken while in the game. Please take note that things like lag before game start, and players typing while in game (etc.) will still affect your APM significantly - Desktop APM is not a perfect solution, but a fairly good one.



I will post some results of my own later. I played a +2 speed custom game vs Ceneraii on Syrtis for testing purposes and it ended with me having 151 APM and Ceneraii 57 APM, obviously it's not a very standard situation though. I'm very interested in seeing what kind of APM other people get in a controlled environment (ladder)!

My results:
170 Williamson's
159 Roanoke
167 Regor
162 Syrtis
154 Bermuda
151 Bermuda
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Re: External APM app - post your results!

Postby Blodir » 13 Oct 2015, 22:06

Alright I (ladder 1900 ish) got 154 APM on Bermuda's Locket vs Chosen (ladder 1700 ish)
Replay ID: 3968779
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Re: External APM app - post your results!

Postby Zock » 13 Oct 2015, 22:10

This is counting clicks/kyes, not apm in the classic sense, right?

Placing a factory = 1 action, but 2 clicks
Or giving a command to a unit can take up to 3 clicks (draw box around some units, select the unit you want, give the order), but its only 1 action.
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Re: External APM app - post your results!

Postby Morax » 13 Oct 2015, 22:28

Zock wrote:This is counting clicks/kyes, not apm in the classic sense, right?

Placing a factory = 1 action, but 2 clicks
Or giving a command to a unit can take up to 3 clicks (draw box around some units, select the unit you want, give the order), but its only 1 action.


Well, this is just an opinion and although I agree with you it would be interesting to see how everyone compares. It's a standard and will reflect the same analysis on everyone.

Why not give it a go? I'll give it a whirl asap. Nice find, Blodes!
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Re: External APM app - post your results!

Postby Blodir » 13 Oct 2015, 22:50

Zock wrote:This is counting clicks/kyes, not apm in the classic sense, right?

Placing a factory = 1 action, but 2 clicks
Or giving a command to a unit can take up to 3 clicks (draw box around some units, select the unit you want, give the order), but its only 1 action.

I would argue that "APM in the classic sense" is indeed counting clicks/keypresses and dividing them by time. Yes it works that way.

I seem to be hovering at around 150 apm. Played another bermuda at 151 vs JaggedAppliance (~1700)
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Re: External APM app - post your results!

Postby JaggedAppliance » 13 Oct 2015, 22:59

1v1 ladder game vs Blodir on Bermuda Locket, 38 mins, 139 apm.
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Re: External APM app - post your results!

Postby Petricpwnz » 14 Oct 2015, 01:40

Zock wrote:This is counting clicks/kyes, not apm in the classic sense, right?

Placing a factory = 1 action, but 2 clicks
Or giving a command to a unit can take up to 3 clicks (draw box around some units, select the unit you want, give the order), but its only 1 action.


IMO still a way better way of comparing how fast somebody plays than replay parser which will just give you 29304890234 apm only because you spammed some units from all facs while holding shift or dragged a massive line of walls etc.
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Re: External APM app - post your results!

Postby Aulex » 14 Oct 2015, 03:51

Petricpwnz wrote:
Zock wrote:This is counting clicks/kyes, not apm in the classic sense, right?

Placing a factory = 1 action, but 2 clicks
Or giving a command to a unit can take up to 3 clicks (draw box around some units, select the unit you want, give the order), but its only 1 action.


IMO still a way better way of comparing how fast somebody plays than replay parser which will just give you 29304890234 apm only because you spammed some units from all facs while holding shift or dragged a massive line of walls etc.


Could do a smart way of replay parser that takes advantage of regular apm to a get a nice inbetween.
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Re: External APM app - post your results!

Postby SeraphimLeftNut » 14 Oct 2015, 03:52

does this cause ui lag? and what does it do with all the data it collects?

I had some massive ui lag, but probably not due to this program.
apm 124 on roanoke, but I was tabbed out a bunch of the time playing with device manager.
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Re: External APM app - post your results!

Postby Aulex » 14 Oct 2015, 06:08

Played a 3v3 on open palms, apm average around 150, but game was super laggy and shit so I don't think it should be counted
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