The new map rotation for the ladder

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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby Iszh » 24 Jul 2015, 13:44

3 monthes and then what about ladder seasons?
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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby Sir Prize » 24 Jul 2015, 14:58

Anihilnine wrote:
BO whoring is just another excuse we make when we lose


Maybe between two equal players you are right, but if I (1500 rated) play someone 1800 rated ... and they have played that map a lot lately, they will have refined their build order and will have a great head start. My build would be refined as well but there's would be much better. If there was a larger pool then they would have a less awesome build ... and perhaps they wouldn't win in the first 5 minutes.


Don't you do better against people who are better than you the more you play the map? And do you find you win against a good player when you don't know the map? I'd be surprised if you said yes to that (it's the absolute opposite for me anyway). It's because the BO advantage gets smaller, not bigger, when you have practiced a lot.

Case in point you beat Blodir on Palms, and he'd been practicing there. His BO advantage wasn't major because you'd also been practicing it and it came down to mistakes being made or using faction advantage and good decisions.
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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby speed2 » 24 Jul 2015, 15:03

These BO whoring arguments... I dont get them, you either know how to play or not,

There will alway be people that play more than others, then what? You wanna restrict number of games you can play per day to make it fair for everyone?
Just get over it and learn to play.
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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby Sir Prize » 24 Jul 2015, 15:21

So 50 maps or 15 speed?
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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby speed2 » 24 Jul 2015, 15:32

I like more maps so only problem I had with that all maps ladder was that it picked same map like 5 times in a row, else it was fine, but I also won't mind this smaller map pool as long as there will be map rotation.

Other thing, I like small maps 5km since when I play ladder I dont want to have long game, just something quick, no setons or any 20km map, but that just my taste and I dont force anyone to feel it the same. And if I run into a map I dont want to play I try to offer draw. or win/lose it quickly. I might have quit once, I dont remember excatly since I dont play ladder that often.
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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby Morax » 24 Jul 2015, 16:14

I honestly really don't get the "BO whore" thing either.

It's a real-TIME-strategy game so optimizing your orders and beating someone to the punch is of course something that accounts for one being lower- or higher-rated.
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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby ZeRen » 24 Jul 2015, 16:27

what about give players option to deselect 2 maps from ladder pool they dont like and dont want to play?
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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby theeggroll » 24 Jul 2015, 16:49

Morax wrote:I honestly really don't get the "BO whore" thing either.

It's a real-TIME-strategy game so optimizing your orders and beating someone to the punch is of course something that accounts for one being lower- or higher-rated.


That is true, but some people who play ladder ALL the time can easily afford to go watch Zock's (or if they are super smart Vee's) Build order and copy it to the click. Since there are so few maps, they can easily do this and that gives them an instant advantage over someone who doesn't play ladder often, even if they arent necessarily better than the person they are playing against.
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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby Mad`Mozart » 24 Jul 2015, 17:30

Or you can learn how the game works and make and refine your own builds. Its more fun this way :)
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Re: The new map rotation for the ladder

Postby theeggroll » 24 Jul 2015, 17:34

Mad`Mozart wrote:Or you can learn how the game works and make and refine your own builds. Its more fun this way :)


I concur but that means that you can lose to the people who HAVE bo whored and then you are SOL
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