GAP, unranked?

[Ionic]

I propose that GAP (Gap of Rohan) is added to the list of maps that are unranked by default.

Setons is given a max allowed rating ceiling of 2000. So you can't reach above 1600 if you only play Setons, unless you are gala.

Both of these changes would cause players to play other maps regularly, which would improve the community and reduce robo players that play the same map to lessen their self-ego.

Lastly, for me personally it would reduce my rating to 1200 ish and I would have more lobbies available to me.

We should also consider 1v1 games played, not in ladder unranked. This is obvious.

[keyser]

why you care that much about rating ?

[Ionic]

Personally? Because at 1500 I can't log-in and play within 10 minutes. At 1200 I would be able to more often.

For Setons and Gap players I think this would solve a lot of issue of self worth and their attitude with other players. It would also allow these players to play other maps.

I personally don't care about my rating, just how rating could be tightened so games would launch faster.

[keyser]

lol you are annoy because it takes 10 min for you to find a game ?

some days i can't even succeed to have a game. only ladder can provide some games time to time.

and btw i still don't understand why you want to force people to play other map than what they want.

[Ionic]

You misunderstood, I want it to take 10 minutes! Most games are 1 hour in-between.

I agree that at your rating, it would be 2x as hard to get a game... unless you played high level setons.

[VoiceofReason]

Maybe we need a "hidden rating day."

Happens once a month, or once a week... Give the community the chance to be ignorant for a day; who knows, maybe newbs, joes, and pros might meet at some point?

Or like I've suggested before, regular rating resets... Either every 6months, or once a year; Something to bring everyone together for a short time, and give some the chance to break out of their rating zone.

[Apofenas]

Practicly gap and such over played for no reason maps make it almost impossible to fill new or under played maps. I used to manage that when i was 1100-1400 and could even play with friends on the team. Now it's just impossible to get a game going for me: you can wait however you want, while you can see 1-4 gap hosts, a bunch seton, wonder/pyramid/canis/hilly plateu and isis hosts filling at the same time and actually starting in 10-30 min. All of these maps are turtle shit and i'm practicly forced to play them in order to actually play games.

The over rating is another issue. Sometimes gap players seems to think they can copy their play style on other maps and operate from 2 factories and eco for 15 minutes with minimal unit production or not go to key expansion of their position and eventually face 3 times bigger eco and die and such stuff.

Getting games in 10 minutes is how it is suppposed to be and probably how it is for 1000-1400 rated players at least in ladder. I immediatly got rid of 200 rating after i found out that i can only play with 3 gap 900s vs 4 1400s in team games. You can see Blodir and Joly smurfs for same reason and probably the reason why TA4Life, Mad-Mozart and such ~2100 rated people are now 1700-1900.

[ax0lotl]

Making Gap unranked will not solve the issue. I do agree that we are having a problem. I play too much Gap, not because I like it so much, but because I can get a quick team game then.

Would be nice if in any case the lobby issue could be solved where unknown maps look like this
http://forums.faforever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9481&p=101884#p101884
Maybe seeing more variety will support playing it.

[pza]

i agree to what ax0lotl says. Removing the crossed screen preview symbol definetly could solve problems.

making setons&gap non ranked is a horrible idea imo, since its a basically random "nerf" of the most popular maps around. guess how many people would like to see this?

[Apofenas]

Thermo might be an example. I used to see a lot more games when that map was ranked, although it's special case as ZeP didn't like that map and wanted to completely delete it, there were a lot of cheaty versions of it and it had scripted restrictions that avoided unranking. Any way since it became impossible to farm rating on it we don't see too many games.

I also wanted to suggest empty host system not so long ago. Basicly it would have 1-4 empty hosts with no players in it, that will randomly pick map out of special map list every minute untill somebody joins. The player that joins first becomes host. The map list would have well made under played maps . For example Dragoons V2, The Requisite, Sands of Ablicka, ect. This could make an impact on promoting diversity of played maps.