Allowing ranked games in nomads.

[sasin]

I believe that nomads is being updated and further integrated soon. This is awesome, and I really enjoy playing it and appreciate the effort everyone has put into it. I know that this discussion has been had to an extent already, but I wanted to bring up the idea of allowing ranked matches with the nomads faction. I recall that people said it wasn't a good idea because the nomads aren't as well balanced as all other factions. But, I am not proposing that ALL ranked matches be allowed to have nomads, but rather, that those that are choosing to allow the nomads can also choose to have those matches ranked. No one forces anyone to play nomads, so people who don't think it's balanced wouldn't have to deal with it.

The mod is essentially the same as the core game. There is no question that skill in a game where nomads is involved is the same thing as skill in a game where nomads isn't involved. Those of us who feel that the faction is balanced enough to play with in a ranked setting should be allowed to do so. Also, there are a lot of people that prefer to play ranked, and it'd be a lot easier to get a nomads game going if it was allowed to be ranked.

[necxelos]

+1 for that

Integrate nomads with the game. Make them an expansion/patch not a mod. Mod sounds so wrong.

[Apofenas]

+1 for that

Integrate nomads with the game. Make them an expansion/patch not a mod. Mod sounds so wrong.

I do not think that this mod is that balanced to be integrated into main FAF game mode and i do not like an idea of adding new units there in general. But i really like an idea of special mod ratings which do not affect the main one. Black ops is the most playable mod; it could have its rating. As for nomads, i don't really think it's being played too much.

[da_monstr]

I don't think Nomads have been balanced enough just yet. They haven't been played enough for that to be possible. TBH, I haven't seen a single Nomads game hosted in the last few months.

[Dragonfire]

I don't think Nomads have been balanced enough just yet. They haven't been played enough for that to be possible. TBH, I haven't seen a single Nomads game hosted in the last few months.

If you integrate Nomads into the game, people will play Nomads and give you feedback ...
Maybe it speeds up the balance progress!

[Brute51]

@Dragonfire: you're right, that is the only way to get proper balance feedback. We saw that with the recent FAF patch 3629. It wasn't tested properly until it was put live. In a matter of hours several bugs were reported and fixed. If more than 3 people had played the balance mod before it was live then these would have been found earlier. That said, Nomads is around much longer and it is played more than the balance patch for 3629.

We're trying to finish Nomads in the next couple of months. The backbone of the mod (the gameplay) is pretty much complete but there's still a lot is to be done. We feel the mod is already quite balanced but if you have remarks don't hesitate to post them! (In the correct forum!) We're really eager to get feedback.

[Dragonfire]

@Dragonfire: you're right, that is the only way to get proper balance feedback. We saw that with the recent FAF patch 3629. It wasn't tested properly until it was put live. In a matter of hours several bugs were reported and fixed. If more than 3 people had played the balance mod before it was live then these would have been found earlier. That said, Nomads is around much longer and it is played more than the balance patch for 3629.

We're trying to finish Nomads in the next couple of months. The backbone of the mod (the gameplay) is pretty much complete but there's still a lot is to be done. We feel the mod is already quite balanced but if you have remarks don't hesitate to post them! (In the correct forum!) We're really eager to get feedback.

Thanks ...
I have no idea of the nomad status,
that the reason I suggested:
viewtopic.php?f=42&t=6670

[Apofenas]

Making all balance changes useless by adding unbalanced nomads in main game mode? No, thanks. I remember in last balance change there was a huge discussion about adding t3 mobile aa in game to nerf t3 air, but nobody liked an idea of new units and now we are talking about whole new army.

If people would be interested in playing nomads, there would be a lot of games with this mod. If people would be interested in balancing nomad, there would be a lot of topics in nomad forum section. In real, there isn't many posts and games.

I think that only thing that can be done is to adapt nomads by adding there faf changes and if people will like it and PLAY it a lot, there will be oppotrunity to integrate it in faf.

[Brute51]

@Dragonfire: to report issues for Nomads you can also use the issue tracker in Nomads' bitbucket, found here.

[pip]

Making all balance changes useless by adding unbalanced nomads in main game mode? No, thanks. I remember in last balance change there was a huge discussion about adding t3 mobile aa in game to nerf t3 air, but nobody liked an idea of new units and now we are talking about whole new army.

If people would be interested in playing nomads, there would be a lot of games with this mod. If people would be interested in balancing nomad, there would be a lot of topics in nomad forum section. In real, there isn't many posts and games.

I think that only thing that can be done is to adapt nomads by adding there faf changes and if people will like it and PLAY it a lot, there will be oppotrunity to integrate it in faf.

Nomads integration is a part of FAF roadmap, wether you like them or not. If you don't want to contribute to their balance, and never intend to play them, that's all fine, but you're wasting your time posting against their integration.