Anaryl wrote:It's a bit embarrassing to post this.
You wouldn't just have battleships, but a well rounded force of Cybran destroyers, cruisers, mermaids, barracudas and a couple of battleships thrown in, yeah they'll eat UEF alive. Sure if you let UEF get a full developed T3 navy he'll probably win, but the idea is that Cyb come out of the gate running and use that momentum to keep the UEF player [from] doing so [getting a developed T3]
I personally am intensely sceptical of the claim that you could hold back a Cybran T2 navy with just frigates & [destroyers]. You need to fully invest in a UEF t2 navy just to hold Cyb at T2, and there a cast floating around (demon_arm vs nubfriedrice) showing how badly T2 cyb navy curbstomps UEF.
Also, I actually watched a Setons game the other day, and T2 stretched all the way to 23 minute mark, with battle cruisers only really coming out in force around 25 mins. That's not a short T2 window.
[edit re read that]
On a 20x20 map, that same thing holds true for all factions, 20x20 is at the top end of the scale - no offence but it's like complaining that there's no T1 game on Betrayal. Setons is 20x20 though right? As mentioned above the T2 window on Setons is still kind of huge.
Just because people aren't playing Cybran on Setons means doesn't mean that they are weak, they just aren't in fashion right now for that map. I think one could probably play a very good Cyb game on Setons if you had the requisite skill.
The thing is it's just impossible to play against Yathsous - no matter what your race. That's a linked but separate issue. You can play against UEF as Cybran and win at T3 - but nothing can stop Sera at T3 but Sera.
Attached is a replay of me getting roflstomped at T3 by Cybran navy. It's kinda embarrassing but it is pertinent.
Well I already offered, but you can try to get me with cybran navy
. We'll see who prevails
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BTW I m willing to concede that setons is not necessarily representative of the FA gameplay. That's why I tried to avoid quoting its name. But then we could try white fire (The t2 window might be a bit longer but still not significant), we could try mezmerize, island zero, well ur pick.
That being said, you may or not like setons, but we are not all dumbasses. On GPGnet you could see diverse faction on navy depending on the play style. But now even harcore cybran lovers just gave up, cause it's really too hard, close to impossible. There must be a reason somewhere. And don't say they don't know how to play cybran