Statistics: Posted by keyser — 01 Apr 2020, 09:35

Statistics: Posted by techmind_ — 01 Apr 2020, 07:08

Statistics: Posted by Endranii — 31 Mar 2020, 23:56

Code:

LAST entry time:2020-03-07T14:23:14Z, games - 102331
array(4) {
  [1]=>
  array(10) {
    ["wins"]=>
    int(15111)
    ["games"]=>
    int(31311)
    ["small_rating"]=>
    int(67451)
    ["games_vs"]=>
    array(4) {
      [1]=>
      int(108)
      [2]=>
      int(152)
      [3]=>
      int(307)
      [4]=>
      int(116)
    }
    ["wins_vs"]=>
    array(4) {
      [1]=>
      float(0.94444444444444)
      [2]=>
      float(0.5)
      [3]=>
      float(0.54723127035831)
      [4]=>
      float(0.47413793103448)
    }
    ["inc_data"]=>
    int(15130)
    ["nomads_data"]=>
    int(59)
    ["game_ids_cnt"]=>
    int(15872)
    ["win_pct"]=>
    float(0.48260994538661)
    ["usage_pct"]=>
    float(0.30597766072842)
  }
  [2]=>
  array(10) {
    ["wins"]=>
    int(9795)
    ["games"]=>
    int(19698)
    ["small_rating"]=>
    int(31669)
    ["inc_data"]=>
    int(11896)
    ["games_vs"]=>
    array(4) {
      [1]=>
      int(135)
      [2]=>
      int(12)
      [3]=>
      int(160)
      [4]=>
      int(80)
    }
    ["wins_vs"]=>
    array(4) {
      [1]=>
      float(0.51851851851852)
      [2]=>
      int(1)
      [3]=>
      float(0.525)
      [4]=>
      float(0.4875)
    }
    ["nomads_data"]=>
    int(46)
    ["game_ids_cnt"]=>
    int(12329)
    ["win_pct"]=>
    float(0.49725860493451)
    ["usage_pct"]=>
    float(0.19249298843948)
  }
  [3]=>
  array(10) {
    ["wins"]=>
    int(17494)
    ["games"]=>
    int(33724)
    ["small_rating"]=>
    int(53471)
    ["games_vs"]=>
    array(4) {
      [1]=>
      int(354)
      [2]=>
      int(153)
      [3]=>
      int(97)
      [4]=>
      int(182)
    }
    ["wins_vs"]=>
    array(4) {
      [1]=>
      float(0.53107344632768)
      [2]=>
      float(0.59477124183007)
      [3]=>
      float(0.94845360824742)
      [4]=>
      float(0.57692307692308)
    }
    ["inc_data"]=>
    int(15525)
    ["nomads_data"]=>
    int(94)
    ["game_ids_cnt"]=>
    int(16405)
    ["win_pct"]=>
    float(0.51874036294627)
    ["usage_pct"]=>
    float(0.32955800295121)
  }
  [4]=>
  array(10) {
    ["wins"]=>
    int(9041)
    ["games"]=>
    int(17598)
    ["small_rating"]=>
    int(23354)
    ["inc_data"]=>
    int(11326)
    ["games_vs"]=>
    array(4) {
      [1]=>
      int(115)
      [2]=>
      int(70)
      [3]=>
      int(173)
      [4]=>
      int(22)
    }
    ["wins_vs"]=>
    array(4) {
      [1]=>
      float(0.66086956521739)
      [2]=>
      float(0.55714285714286)
      [3]=>
      float(0.5028901734104)
      [4]=>
      float(0.95454545454545)
    }
    ["nomads_data"]=>
    int(38)
    ["game_ids_cnt"]=>
    int(11744)
    ["win_pct"]=>
    float(0.51375156267758)
    ["usage_pct"]=>
    float(0.1719713478809)
  }
}


Statistics: Posted by techmind_ — 31 Mar 2020, 20:04

Statistics: Posted by advena — 31 Mar 2020, 13:19

Statistics: Posted by FemtoZetta — 31 Mar 2020, 10:06

Code:

<?php

$pages = 30;
$size = 10000;
$total_games = 0;
$factions = [1 => [], 2 => [], 3 => [], 4 => [], 5 => [], 6 => []];

for ($p = 1; $p < $pages; $p++)
{
   echo date('Y-m-d H:i:s') . ": Page $p of $pages\n";
   //$json = file_get_contents("https://api.faforever.com/data/gamePlayerStats?sort=-id&include=player&page[size]=${size}&filter[gamePlayerStats]=score%3E0&page[number]=${p}");
   $json = file_get_contents("https://api.faforever.com/data/gamePlayerStats?sort=-id&include=player&page[size]=${size}&page[number]=${p}&filter[gamePlayerStats]=score!=0");
   $arr = json_decode($json, true);   

   foreach ($arr['data'] as $k => $v)
   {
      $fac = $v['attributes']['faction'];
      if (empty($factions[$fac]))
      {
         $factions[$fac] = ['wins' => 0, 'games' => 0];
      }
      if ($v['attributes']['afterMean'] > 1200)
      {
         if ($v['attributes']['score'] != 0)
         {            
            $scoreTime = $v['attributes']['scoreTime'];            
            $factions[$fac]['games']++;
            
            if ($v['attributes']['score'] > 0)
            {
               $factions[$fac]['wins']++;
            }
            if ($fac >= 1 && $fac <= 4)
            {
               $total_games++;
            }
         }
      }
   }   
}

// nomads ?
unset($factions[5]);
unset($factions[6]);

echo "LAST entry time:" . $scoreTime . ", games - $total_games \n";

foreach ($factions as $i => $val)
{
   $factions[$i]['win_pct'] = $factions[$i]['wins'] / $factions[$i]['games'];
   $factions[$i]['usage_pct'] = $factions[$i]['games'] / $total_games;
}

var_dump($factions);


Code:

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Statistics: Posted by techmind_ — 31 Mar 2020, 08:23

Blodir wrote:
went ahead and called him stupid.

Blodir wrote:
I don't know dude... I just get the vibe that the only reason you are here is to argue or lord over players that are slightly below you in rating...

Blodir wrote:
You can't both scoff at lower rated players' opinions and argue with someone much higher rated.

Blodir wrote:
Of course if hoplite/mongoose was the only weakness of aurora then aurora would be quite strong indeed!

Blodir wrote:
However I can see why this would be an issue for lower rated players (wink wink).

Statistics: Posted by biass — 31 Mar 2020, 06:51

biass wrote:
Make sure you put it in red next time because I didn't read your attempt at mockery the first two times around, Blodir.
It is a response to techmind who deems cutting the price of the unit in half is a solid suggestion, and you've seemingly forgotten about that part here?
Make sure you consider the perspective of the author before writing a response.

techmind_ wrote:
And the argument of 'having faction diversity' and one of the faction being clearly worse at all stages of the game is bullshit.
No problem let it be diverse, lets cut the price for aurora by half, it will be still same 'diversity' but the faction suddenly will be the best choice for t1 stage.

biass wrote:
Ignoring Az, noone is being toxic here. Please do not conflate being toxic with not agreeing with your opinion.

biass wrote:
I never thought I would see people say aeon t1 is underpowered but that is indeed the nature of the balance forums where your skill level is not displayed.

biass wrote:

Blodir wrote:since those factions shit on auroras really bad with hoplite/mongoose.

Sure, but you can decide if a unit being "shit on really bad" by a unit of a higher tech level is the norm in this game or not. Personally, I think that you even suggesting it as the "normal" requirement for fighting them is enough to prove that their appearance changes the game state compared to a, for example; uef/cybran battle.

The OP and others in this thread are (likely) speaking from the view that Aurora lose to their T1 contemporaries and unlike you or I, do not automatically fall under the assumption that Aurora will be met with a T2 rush/heavy air play/gun play every single game. That's why I asked for replays. Twice.

And futhermore, I believe that Aeon's apperance forcing a "shit on aurora really bad with mongoose" automatic assumption is why the faction is not played as much, as OP stated. Opening up options to the player has been a goal for both the balance team AND yourself in this forum's long and bloody history, and it turns out that units that force or dicate a certain style of play are pretty important to note when balancing a faction, don't you think?

Blodir wrote:
In most ladder maps aurora is the worst tank by far. Aurora is only good in situations where all of the following are true: space is limited, you have head on big t1 army engagements and enemy does not have the time/resources to invest in hoplite/mongoose/t1 bomber/gun. Eg. on Theta aurora are very good, whereas on that new 20x20 petric map (kusogi or something like that) aurora are totally unplayable garbage. Currently in the map pool there's arguably only 1 aurora map (viridium) out of 15. Also keep in mind that even if half of the map pool was aurora maps it would still not be fun to play aeon since you have a massive disadvantage on other maps.

biass wrote:
And futhermore, I believe that Aeon's apperance forcing a "shit on aurora really bad with mongoose" automatic assumption is why the faction is not played as much, as OP stated.

biass wrote:
Opening up options to the player has been a goal for both the balance team AND yourself in this forum's long and bloody history, and it turns out that units that force or dicate a certain style of play are pretty important to note when balancing a faction, don't you think?

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 30 Mar 2020, 21:22

Blodir wrote:
since those factions shit on auroras really bad with hoplite/mongoose.

Statistics: Posted by biass — 30 Mar 2020, 19:43

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 30 Mar 2020, 19:17

Statistics: Posted by RedX — 30 Mar 2020, 18:43

biass wrote:

Blodir wrote:I'm sorry but this is just stupid.

That's great my man, are you here to argue for/against any points mentioned in the thread or are you just trying to make yourself feel better?

already the strongest by a considerable margin

Aeon have such a strong t1 and the entire game is influenced by how strong they are

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 30 Mar 2020, 18:36

Statistics: Posted by biass — 30 Mar 2020, 13:43