Epson wrote:I'm just going to put something in here that people seem to overlook.
Download this mod, play it and then rip it to shreds with things you have found based on evidence.
I was playing it with Ithlilis and co and made an offhand comment about something, I can't even remember what. And Ithilis says "You're right I should change that". I replied "No don't go changing your project based on that" and he said "No. I also think the numbers are incorrect I will tweak it for next version."
He is not emotionally attached to this mod. He welcomes constructive criticism.Follow Apofenas's comments. He criticises it without giving any specifics. Why?
Because in every other FAF balance discussions using specifics just get you nowhere. Literally everyone ignores them and starts posting their own, untested random numbers. (Which are promptly ignored by the balance team thank god). I personally think people like arguing about that shit because no one can be 'wrong'.
Ithilis on the other hand wants you to criticise his mod with all the specifics you can. Apofenas then started offering stuff like this:
"Take spearhead for example. In your balance mod it costs 532 mass just because you wanted it to cost equal as absolver or sera t3 shield. You also adjusted its DPS to 300(less dps per mass than was). So now you need to invest 30% more mass to overwhelm tmd. You also removed natural HP advantage of this unit compare to t3 arty which is really usefull both in standing turtle war and in mobile group with percies. Didn't think about that?"And guess what? He listened. Go play the mod, join our games test it and and say what you think. Use evidence and numbers if you can. Even if they are just rule of thumb (T3 MML was perhaps too strong relatively but nerf made it weak compared to T3 arty for examaple; here is replay).
He will listen to your opinion if supported by fact.He will respect that opinion. And this is the important bit. He may or may not implement what you have said into the mod. This does not mean he does not respect your opinion. He has just decided on a different direction for the mod or feels that his (extensive) testing has yielded countering statistics.
What he will not listen to. "Mumble mumble vague opinion about how I feel". Ithilis doesn't give a shit how you feel and he doesn't give a shit what you feel about him. He isn't making this mod to impress he's here to make logical changes. Yes some of them are bat shit crazy (engineers capture from transport...cause why not?) but they are based of evidence and facts.
I have also said "Man I wish the experimentals weren't nerfed to be built so slow" Ith "Why?" "Cause I like experimentals"
That comment he ignored.
Here is Ithilis posting a balance suggestion, realising he was taking the wring angle of looking at it and retracting and closing the thread.
forums/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=11110 Where the f*** else have you seen that?
Why do the [e] team seem to be 'fanboys' of Ithilis and defend him quite often? Because he genuinely knows his shit. We have talked enough on TS to learn this where rather ironically he speaks perfect English and grammar. He is a rare breed of human who welcomes logic in arguments and looks for reason in debates. I noticed that when I also had a discussion over EU immigration with him. Granted it was typed and I didn't understand like 40% of it. He is a great resource for this community. Use him. And don't hate his ideas if they are too out the box. They probably wont get implemented anyway. Think of this mod as an R&D deparment of FAF. The best and workable ideas will make it into the base game. The weird shit wont.