Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Auto-OC

2017-02-09T20:20:55+02:00

Farmsletje wrote:
have it run like shields/stealth with -200e/s while you have it enabled.

Statistics: Posted by Farmsletje — 09 Feb 2017, 20:20

Re: Auto-OC

2017-02-09T20:02:32+02:00

That's not actually what I had in mind. I simply hoped for auto OC to be as fast as manual OC instead of faster. But appearently that is the case already.

Statistics: Posted by SpoCk0nd0pe — 09 Feb 2017, 20:02

Re: Auto-OC

2017-02-09T18:46:57+02:00

SpoCk0nd0pe wrote:
Even though I'm all for convenience features, I still think auto OC shouldn't be faster then manual OC. That doesn't make much sense and is a change that could probably be done quickly (and may remove some ground from general arguments against the feature).

https://github.com/FAForever/fa/blob/de ... angelog.md

Statistics: Posted by angus000 — 09 Feb 2017, 18:46

Re: Auto-OC

2017-02-09T18:23:26+02:00

Even though I'm all for convenience features, I still think auto OC shouldn't be faster then manual OC. That doesn't make much sense and is a change that could probably be done quickly (and may remove some ground from general arguments against the feature).

Statistics: Posted by SpoCk0nd0pe — 09 Feb 2017, 18:23

Re: Auto-OC

2017-02-09T18:14:50+02:00

autocounter to bullshit beetle snipes doesn't need "fixing"

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 09 Feb 2017, 18:14

Re: Auto-OC

2017-02-09T17:06:02+02:00

reload time wouldnt fix the autocounter to beetle snipes

Statistics: Posted by Hascins — 09 Feb 2017, 17:06

Re: Auto-OC

2016-12-22T04:09:43+02:00

speed2 wrote:
I won't mind increasing reload time on it to match more manual OC

I think that is very much required and tested before any further discussion. Whether or not it should be slower should be discussed (I'm o.k. with it being as fast, but I'm a noob), but it should definitely not be faster then manual OC. Like in a hotfix, hopefully before Christmas

@Biass: He was being cynical

Statistics: Posted by SpoCk0nd0pe — 22 Dec 2016, 04:09

Re: Auto-OC

2016-12-21T03:11:45+02:00

speed2 wrote:
Meanwhile every other game out there never released a single hotfix after a patch,

joking, right?

Statistics: Posted by biass — 21 Dec 2016, 03:11

Re: Auto-OC

2016-12-21T00:26:11+02:00

I'm a new/inexperienced player (or returning, I was on-off a long time ago, but I never did much seriously), but I thought I'd like to add my 2 cents in.

I feel like Seraphim benefit (and rightly so) from this feature from the perspective of their sACU. If people nerfed or removed auto-OC for their sACUs, however, I would understand their reasoning for it. Having hyper-flexible sACUs also take out combat experimentals without insane micro would get frustrating due to how flexible sACUs are.

As for auto-OC itself, I think I'm on the middle ground. I understand why players would think this feature detracts from the overall skill ceiling of the game and makes rambo ACU strategies less risk-intensive and thus less of a choice of whether you should or should not do it.

At the same time, I also understand that auto-OC is a very welcome feature for people who want to nourish the viability of tactics in the game for player interaction. So, why not just make auto-OC have a clear disadvantage to manual OC?

I personally don't care what people do. Remove auto-OC, keep it as-is, nerf it in some way ((Damage, Reload, Energy cost (Maybe it requires 2 estorage instead of 1? maybe 3?), projectile speed, range...) whatever. I see the benefit and the issue for all options.

Statistics: Posted by XenoJade — 21 Dec 2016, 00:26

Re: Auto-OC

2016-12-21T00:12:34+02:00

I won't mind increasing reload time on it to match more manual OC, or what ever balance change. I mind ppl that cry here to remove it.

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 21 Dec 2016, 00:12

Re: Auto-OC

2016-12-21T00:04:51+02:00

Whatever, plenty of people in this thread don't like the feature spare this one responding to my posts immediately.

Thanks for trying at least to listen to feedback, speed2.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 21 Dec 2016, 00:04

Re: Auto-OC

2016-12-21T00:00:09+02:00

Oh yes we know about the bugs and release it anyway hoping that no one will notice, that's exatly what we do.

Meanwhile every other game out there never released a single hotfix after a patch, only we are noob coders on FAF.

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 21 Dec 2016, 00:00

Re: Auto-OC

2016-12-20T23:57:18+02:00

Of course, but that doesn't mean certain features such as this don't add bugs or issues to the situation for those who work on other portions.

I feel like EVERY balance, client, etc release has some "hot fix" released days later so maybe they could cut down on release content and raise stability, no?

I appreciate wholeheartedly peoples' efforts, but the track record is not good in my opinion.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 20 Dec 2016, 23:57

Re: Auto-OC

2016-12-20T23:06:39+02:00

Maybe because it requires different skills? Have you ever noticed that people that are working on the server and people that are working on the game code are different people?

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 20 Dec 2016, 23:06

Re: Auto-OC

2016-12-20T22:58:11+02:00

Personally it is none of that: It just irks me that there are things like rating calculation bugs amidst for MONTHS and people are bothering to write code for new features.

Why should we add new features that could add to the pile of bugs, when they are not necessary, and far less important than core functions is beyond me.

Functionality > "Niceities" is my main argument to stop effort on these sorts of things.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 20 Dec 2016, 22:58