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Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-30T09:19:54+02:00

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Statistics: Posted by Bittered — 30 Jul 2016, 09:19

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-30T04:20:12+02:00

Shroomy wrote:
Oh yes, I did. Loaded 5 beetles and 1 reciever into 3 t1 transports. Grouped them together for stealthed, flew righ to enemy base with no AA and no pd. Ordered landing on top of ACU, beetles even did their teleportish move and ..... nothing. Fail.

I have this feeling that it is harder to micro landing of 3 (you dont go without stealth) transports instead of 1. Dont you think so?

I'll go without stealth whenever the hell I please thanks

Give replay id

Statistics: Posted by biass — 30 Jul 2016, 04:20

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-29T22:17:52+02:00

Oh yes, I did. Loaded 5 beetles and 1 reciever into 3 t1 transports. Grouped them together for stealthed, flew righ to enemy base with no AA and no pd. Ordered landing on top of ACU, beetles even did their teleportish move and ..... nothing. Fail.

I have this feeling that it is harder to micro landing of 3 (you dont go without stealth) transports instead of 1. Dont you think so?

Statistics: Posted by Bittered — 29 Jul 2016, 22:17

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-29T18:33:15+02:00

u have to treat cyb going t2 land carefully?

cyb will go t2 land in pretty much 90% of games man

Also, have u tried using beetle in beta yet? or just whining?

Statistics: Posted by biass — 29 Jul 2016, 18:33

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-29T18:24:59+02:00

Oh, and while I am still here: after Tokyto made beetle tutorial information about attack order queing became availible. And seen in speed2's school of FAF. And about team-games: if you have Aeon air you HAVE to be aware of mercies, if you have Cybran land you HAVE to be aware of beetle snipes. Thats why you have treat carefully in team games. And thats why scouting is so good. On many occasions I had beetle snipes scouted out or straighforward denied by air player. It goes the same way for mercies.

Statistics: Posted by Bittered — 29 Jul 2016, 18:24

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-29T18:19:38+02:00

So ..... beetles are not ment for sniping ACU's. Nerf makes sence with that. Yet, I have to say that I personally did use beeles to snipe t2 mexes/power, though only when snipe target get more caruful while snipe was being prepared. Going for eco is indeed effective choice but .... going for ACU is much more fun and adrenaline . I guess there are reasons for which beetles are not welcomed as a sniping tool, but it just makes game less fun. For me at least.

Statistics: Posted by Bittered — 29 Jul 2016, 18:19

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-29T13:51:35+02:00

I explained some things about the beetle nerf here:

viewtopic.php?f=67&t=12826&p=131645#p131645

Statistics: Posted by Zock — 29 Jul 2016, 13:51

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-29T13:49:17+02:00

Shroomy wrote:
speed2 wrote:
After 3 years of playing FAF I will take a long long break if this thange comes through.

Bye bye, we gonna miss you

I have taken preventive measures and am playing Aeon exculisively now. So, when the patch strikes I will stay in with another faction as primary ....

Besides I have an unbeatable anti-nerf arguement: beetles are very small. They have size of t1 unit. From this follow that they have to be treated as t1 by the transport! One has to feed beetle for month to make so fat that it will take 2 slots in the transport! So I propose a change: make beelte grow in size over time. Afre 60 sec it will take 2 slots and do x2 dmg!

i hope this suggestion is a joke or something

Statistics: Posted by Stups — 29 Jul 2016, 13:49

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-29T13:11:16+02:00

speed2 wrote:
After 3 years of playing FAF I will take a long long break if this thange comes through.

Bye bye, we gonna miss you

I have taken preventive measures and am playing Aeon exculisively now. So, when the patch strikes I will stay in with another faction as primary ....

Besides I have an unbeatable anti-nerf arguement: beetles are very small. They have size of t1 unit. From this follow that they have to be treated as t1 by the transport! One has to feed beetle for month to make so fat that it will take 2 slots in the transport! So I propose a change: make beelte grow in size over time. Afre 60 sec it will take 2 slots and do x2 dmg!

Statistics: Posted by Bittered — 29 Jul 2016, 13:11

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-28T17:31:53+02:00

Wesmania wrote:
Beetle nerf the way it works now is fine IMO. Being able to drop 4 or so beetles at the enemy com punishes com pushes a bit too much. Maybe now people will use beetles for more things than just cheesing full health ACU kills, like killing and sucking up t2 mexes.

If they didnt do that before, why they will do that now? it takes same space than T2 tank, so drop T2 tank, it will destroy t2 mex and still fucking around. Give more HP to beetles to hang on normal damage and we will start seeing interesting things (of course any HP buff has to go with cost increase but hey, that is fair).

Statistics: Posted by NapSpan — 28 Jul 2016, 17:31

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-28T17:07:25+02:00

Beetle nerf the way it works now is fine IMO. Being able to drop 4 or so beetles at the enemy com punishes com pushes a bit too much. Maybe now people will use beetles for more things than just cheesing full health ACU kills, like killing and sucking up t2 mexes.

Statistics: Posted by Wesmania — 28 Jul 2016, 17:07

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-28T13:58:56+02:00

all you gonna is:

1)get beetles and transports
2)send them when enemy air players are busy or inties are too away
3)drop them
4)get to enemy ACU
5)you've just got a kill

in early stages i dont usually put AA in my base, we have air players to defend everybody from jesters. my eco or i will be screwed up in seconds.

Statistics: Posted by Masyaka — 28 Jul 2016, 13:58

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-28T13:41:32+02:00

How about firebeetles get a different buff which does not impact the previous problem?
For example, passive cloaking like selens (sera labs). We could make traps as with burrowed banelings in starcaft.

cheers!

Statistics: Posted by lebensnebel — 28 Jul 2016, 13:41

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-28T09:41:02+02:00

After 3 years of playing FAF I will take a long long break if this thange comes through.

Bye bye, we gonna miss you

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 28 Jul 2016, 09:41

Re: Save the Beetles, dont let Cybran spirit die!

2016-07-28T09:26:23+02:00

NapSpan wrote:
after all, if I fire with HE rounds a box full with explosives, that thing makes boom.

That depends heavily on the explosives.
Nitroglycerine goes boom if you sneeze too close to it.
Dynamite already requires multiple detonators if you want to use a bundle (yes, it is stable enough that it may not sympathetically detonate if the central stick explode).
ANFO needs a booster charge before it can go boom.
Acetone Peroxide detonates if you fart in the same room.
Azidoazide Azides (ie: C2N14) can explode because... Well, for no reason at all. It's THAT instable.

Statistics: Posted by zeroAPM — 28 Jul 2016, 09:26