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Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-24T03:38:28+02:00

alreadyded wrote:
I think they are fine against T1 Bombers and Inties as is, but they really blow at taking down a T1 transport. I build 3-5 and assist them to a building or unit to spread them out and bombers will get to drop one bomb max, which only hits one AA, before dying (if they are attacking something further on then no bombs dropped). Seems like a favorable trade to me since T1 AA is so cheap and fast to build. Even with 5 AA a T1 transport can fly over them and still successfully drop while still being shot at and probably get away with some health, that seems wrong to me.

Edit; A small range buff might be good, I don't think that would help too much to make the unit OP. Buffing damage will not stop bombers from dropping on formations with some T1 mobile AA mixed in so that might work too.

Nah, nah, nah. I think MAA is good as it is, it takes down lone bombers and it's not meant to do much more. If you want more - spam static AA, they are cheap and useful. For fighting pack of bombers there are inties and flak. If your enemy is going bomber spam, then they are probably investing less into inties - so spam them. Bomber cost (80M, 2250E) > intie cost (50M, 2250E), for every 5 bombers he makes you get 8 inties.

Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 24 Apr 2016, 03:38

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T23:42:10+02:00

None of the AA in the game are all that great against T1 bomber spam, even flak is only good if the bombers are in one or two large groups. If you spread them out and coordinate an attack flak (or a formation with a few mobile flak) will only kill a few before it gets bombed to death. I remember in supcom one just spamming T1 bombers and carpet bombing even in late T3 stage and it was extremely effective, at least you can't do that anymore. Though hover bombing does make use of this increased rate of fire/damage that carpet bombing gave by flying them over in formation with no attack orders, but I have only ever seen people hover bomb in the first few minutes and it is easy to dodge with so few units on the field.

Statistics: Posted by alreadyded — 15 Apr 2016, 23:42

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T23:33:55+02:00

I've always thought that t1 bombers are a bit too resilient as opposed to t1 aa being weak. But then it must be said that I only ever play cybran and slammers are great with their tracking missiles and they're cheap as chips.

Statistics: Posted by RocketRooster — 15 Apr 2016, 23:33

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T23:18:42+02:00

... actually ill go one up on my previous post and actually advertise equilibrium xDD

Mobile AA: 28 → 30m ;
AA DPS: 15/16 → 20/21 ;
Movement Speed: 3 → 3.5 ;
Muzzle Velocity: 45 → 60

http://equilibrium.x10host.com/changelog/#t1land

there we go. enjoy. was in there for a few months now.

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 15 Apr 2016, 23:18

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T23:31:22+02:00

I think they are fine against T1 Bombers and Inties as is, but they really blow at taking down a T1 transport. I build 3-5 and assist them to a building or unit to spread them out and bombers will get to drop one bomb max, which only hits one AA, before dying (if they are attacking something further on then no bombs dropped). Seems like a favorable trade to me since T1 AA is so cheap and fast to build. Even with 5 AA a T1 transport can fly over them and still successfully drop while still being shot at and probably get away with some health, that seems wrong to me.

Edit; A small range buff might be good, I don't think that would help too much to make the unit OP. Buffing damage will not stop bombers from dropping on formations with some T1 mobile AA mixed in so that might work too.

Statistics: Posted by alreadyded — 15 Apr 2016, 23:06

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T22:26:14+02:00

Roll off time from factory makes them annoying to build and the fact that they miss everything faster than a t1 bomber makes them pretty shit.

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 15 Apr 2016, 22:26

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T20:39:01+02:00

Yeah, they do.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 15 Apr 2016, 20:39

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T20:31:48+02:00

They're cheaper than labs already >.>

Statistics: Posted by TheKoopa — 15 Apr 2016, 20:31

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T20:26:20+02:00

I never build them, not worth at all imo

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 15 Apr 2016, 20:26

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T20:25:42+02:00

*cue thunder and lightning
*Ithilis appears
"FIXED IN EQUILIBRIUM"
*Ithilis vanishes among dark clouds laughing manically

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 15 Apr 2016, 20:25

Re: t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T20:18:23+02:00

yeah, i suggested this a year+ back

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 15 Apr 2016, 20:18

t1 mobile aa needs a buff.

2016-04-15T20:13:53+02:00

Discuss. I think they're pretty much useless in current form. I'd like to see a price decrease / build time dec or price increase and make them much stronger (increasing damage/firerate and muzzle velocity)

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 15 Apr 2016, 20:13