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Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-06-17T10:49:29+02:00

This was discussed and decided that the current situation is fine.

Statistics: Posted by Zock — 17 Jun 2016, 10:49

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-06-03T19:52:16+02:00

In my opinion it is no big disadvantage (not being able to use ghettos for acu snipes, we rarely see them nowadays anyway) and together with aeon having a pure air fighter plane makes up faction diversity. In my opinion it should stay this way. That was the way it was taught to me at least in gpg times.
If they get ghetto, does cybran and uef then get an op mercy??? (still way too big range or to short aa range)

Statistics: Posted by Manfet — 03 Jun 2016, 19:52

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-06-01T17:24:49+02:00

Statistics: Posted by Heaven — 01 Jun 2016, 17:24

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-09T02:13:46+02:00

While the transport would have ground gun it dont change nothing on labs inside. Labs dont reack on transport order.

keyser wrote:
trying to kill an engie, and com trying to stop you, and you micro circle to avoid shot.

it have diferent target priority (acu->radar->enginer) so yes when you will circle and trying to avoid shots from acu and destroy enginer it will automatic reset target back for acu. But when you compare it with normal faf its same but will not change target to acu, but for T3/2/1 units that dont must be enginer. And this situation where you can do something with lab near acu - efectively is extremly rare, all time player want to avoid acu (with labs), for this obvious reasons.

So yes in ideal world it should have function in script that will change target priority for acu only while is in transport, but its not easy to code and real diferences is so tiny that dont see it as important.

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 09 Mar 2016, 02:13

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-09T01:24:18+02:00

trying to kill an engie, and com trying to stop you, and you micro circle to avoid shot. i don't see any problems with this situation.
aeon T2 transport definitely need a little weapon to allow the target selection. never though of it.

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 09 Mar 2016, 01:24

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-09T00:23:38+02:00

i found its not so easy to add a dummy weapon to those t1 transports for some reason, complains about a weapon having 0 range for some reason

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Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 09 Mar 2016, 00:23

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-08T23:59:19+02:00

Protip: Assist the target with the transport, trans will tightly circle it until it is dead.

you can use this for example not only against acu's but also mexes you have softened up before with a microed bomber. t2 trans is faster than t2/t3 gunship (check units db) thats also how cybran can snipe t2 mexes with their strat

Statistics: Posted by mirroredwang — 08 Mar 2016, 23:59

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-08T23:16:58+02:00

To be clear: the gun on the transport allows you to to target, and labs will attack the target of the t2 transport.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 08 Mar 2016, 23:16

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-08T23:13:47+02:00

Units in a transport take no notice of the transport's target as far as I can find. The aeon T2 transport has much better AA in return for no ground weapon.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 08 Mar 2016, 23:13

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-08T22:53:48+02:00

speed2 wrote:
If air to ground gun is required on the transport then how do T1 transports do that?

They don't.

Statistics: Posted by Petricpwnz — 08 Mar 2016, 22:53

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-08T22:52:31+02:00

Morax wrote:
briang wrote:I don't see anything wrong with implementing this. Ought to be relatively simple to code and model as well.

This should never be assumed for anything in the game. It blows my mind how tweaking one little thing has caused havoc in other areas.

If it causes havoc for some strange and unlikely reason it would be caught long before implementation.

Statistics: Posted by briang — 08 Mar 2016, 22:52

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-08T22:07:18+02:00

briang wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with implementing this. Ought to be relatively simple to code and model as well.

This should never be assumed for anything in the game. It blows my mind how tweaking one little thing has caused havoc in other areas.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 08 Mar 2016, 22:07

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-08T21:18:36+02:00

If air to ground gun is required on the transport then how do T1 transports do that?

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 08 Mar 2016, 21:18

Re: Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transp

2016-03-08T19:48:47+02:00

I don't see anything wrong with implementing this. Ought to be relatively simple to code and model as well.

Statistics: Posted by briang — 08 Mar 2016, 19:48

Add a weak air-to-ground gun to the Illuminate t2 transport

2016-03-08T19:45:10+02:00

UEF and Cybran t2 transports can be used for ghetto gunships because they have an air-to-ground gun. The Illuminate transport has no A2G weapon, thus can't target anything if filled with LABs. The shots scatter to all sorts of units except the one you want to hit. Even an unupgraded ACU can defend itself from t2 Illuminate ghettos by spamming unfinished structures around itself, which the ghettos will automatically prioritize. The ACU receives 0 damage and the player has INFINITE time to bring or even newly build mobile flak or interceptors from anywhere across the map.

Inb4 balance discussion shitstorm, this has borderline zero balance implications because t2 flak is the hardcounter to any t1 and t2 air. There is no sane argument for why the Illuminate have all the means to build a t2 ghetto but can't target stuff once they have it.

PS I hate insects

Statistics: Posted by Heaven — 08 Mar 2016, 19:45