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Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-18T16:48:17+02:00

Why would you surround salvation with para when you can surround salvation with salvation? /confused

Statistics: Posted by Ceneraii — 18 Sep 2015, 16:48

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-18T12:23:51+02:00

why sacu ? With t3 plant surrounded by t2 mass fab you got + 10.000 m/s and 350k e/s for 300k mass cost.

resource that got gradually in comparison to the paragon that you become only when finished ...

So sad that the eng station has been so hard nerfed ... uef and cyb were the resource spammer faction ..

Statistics: Posted by dstojkov — 18 Sep 2015, 12:23

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-18T07:57:10+02:00

UEF Scu produces 11 mass and 1,020 e. To reach the 10,000 mass/s and 1,000,000 e/s the limiting factor is the e you need 980 scus with ras for reaching the e income and 909 scus with ras to reach the mass income. Basically possible

It costs 6600 mass so you have to pay 6,000,000 mass to built 909 scus.

To built a salvation next to a paragon sounds stupid. Once got a paragon you need to be prepared for this with lots of t3 engis or scus. Then you simply spam sams nuke defs shields arround para and assist shields with lots of built power and get pd, t1 pds next to para and offensive you start spamming salvations, koloss and czar. While all this is going on you need to start new paragons like 2-4 at different places. Templates (spread sam & nuke def // shielding & t1 pd) are very useful for paragon case. But a salvation next to a paragon sounds like you are playing at very very low late game experience level

Statistics: Posted by Iszh — 18 Sep 2015, 07:57

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-18T00:34:23+02:00

dstojkov wrote:
Sorry to destroy a myth but paragon has a limit on mass and energy it can deliver

This is not an infinite resource provider like a lot of you think it is

It's infinite enough

Statistics: Posted by Reaper Zwei — 18 Sep 2015, 00:34

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-17T23:28:29+02:00

Sorry to destroy a myth but paragon has a limit on mass and energy it can deliver

This is not an infinite resource provider like a lot of you think it is

Statistics: Posted by dstojkov — 17 Sep 2015, 23:28

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-15T08:24:21+02:00

Exactly

Statistics: Posted by Valki — 15 Sep 2015, 08:24

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-14T17:43:48+02:00

Valki wrote:
DeimosEvotec wrote:[...]with +200% it's would probably break the game shooting 26 times a second, ~207k dps and each shot splits into 36 that 26 times a second means it would rain 936 projectiles on the enemy per second.

I think that would be the first literal game ender?

In the sense that everyone would leave because of the massive lag, yes ;D

Statistics: Posted by Ceneraii — 14 Sep 2015, 17:43

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-14T17:41:04+02:00

DeimosEvotec wrote:
[...]with +200% it's would probably break the game shooting 26 times a second, ~207k dps and each shot splits into 36 that 26 times a second means it would rain 936 projectiles on the enemy per second.

I think that would be the first literal game ender?

Statistics: Posted by Valki — 14 Sep 2015, 17:41

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-14T15:49:24+02:00

it's better to surround it with tele prevention and shields instead of putting it next to your second 200k+ mass building anyway, even if it were to boost the salvation

Statistics: Posted by Myxir — 14 Sep 2015, 15:49

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-14T15:36:25+02:00

Sure, built a Salvation + 4 paragons, get the dps of 16 salvations and save 2.2million mass and 1 million buildtime
sorry you have infinit mass anyways

Statistics: Posted by DeimosEvotec — 14 Sep 2015, 15:36

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-14T15:16:43+02:00

screw building more salvations, just build more paras around your single salvation

Statistics: Posted by Deering — 14 Sep 2015, 15:16

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-14T12:53:02+02:00

with +100% a Salvation with 4 Paragons would shoot 5 times a second and have a total dps of ~40k which is kind of hilarious.
and with +200% it's would probably break the game shooting 26 times a second, ~207k dps and each shot splits into 36 that 26 times a second means it would rain 936 projectiles on the enemy per second.

Statistics: Posted by DeimosEvotec — 14 Sep 2015, 12:53

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-14T12:49:28+02:00

instead of achiveing bonus you are supposed to make another salvation

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 14 Sep 2015, 12:49

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-14T12:31:52+02:00

Deering wrote:
Not sure the cost is relevant. As for fire rate. What % bonus would you give it? And generally you would want your 2 game enders not right next to each other

No you wouldn't, so there would have to be a benefit to it.

I would think +100% to +200% fire rate bonus.

Statistics: Posted by Valki — 14 Sep 2015, 12:31

Re: No adjacancy bonus on Paragon (before you laugh: Salvati

2015-09-14T05:54:07+02:00

Not sure the cost is relevant. As for fire rate. What % bonus would you give it? And generally you would want your 2 game enders not right next to each other

Statistics: Posted by Deering — 14 Sep 2015, 05:54