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Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-05-24T03:18:21+02:00

Flynn, being 1100 or 1250 doesn't make you such a bad player.
Either we embrace reality, or we set fictional and unrealistic goals.
There are only 100 players who are between 2500 and 1500 and I suspect
That there are not many more between 1500 and 1000. Wanting to improve
Is good and all, but feeling desperate because you are between the first
300 and not between the first 100 players is vanity. It doesn't let
You enjoy the game in the end. This is like saying that since the average
Chess player is 1600 and the gm Carlseen 2800ish , we should all strive to reach
2000 so as to show our genuine will to improve? This is complete bull and you know it.

Anyway this is not pointed only at you but to all the other good people
Who propagate the illusion that you somehow are average when you are 1600,
And a noob when you are 1200 or 1300. Maybe 1600 is where the average should
Be. But it isn't, and this reflects mainly basic human imperfections.And in the meantime
The real average is something around 200.

Some food for thought.

Statistics: Posted by prodromos — 24 May 2015, 03:18

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-05-20T11:42:34+02:00

Or you could just say F$#@ it all like I did Flynn. I had some very fun games recently by not building a factory first.

Embrace your inner troll.

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Statistics: Posted by Cuddles — 20 May 2015, 11:42

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-05-20T11:25:38+02:00

If you think you have just problems with remembering things....try the notifications UI Mod...it reminds you of different things at certain time stamps during the game.

But still...if you can execute all the things properly that Vee listed, you definitely gonna be at 1500 ranking!

I made the experience that everytime I hit the ceiling and tried to change something, I dropped in rating....but afterwards I bounced back and overcompensated the loss. But it takes a bit of time to build new habbits. For me its about two weeks.

And drops can be very, very, very effective. Of course the risk increases if you have no air superiority and if you dont scout. But this is exactly why you need to train this. Try to do two drops at the same time, scout, try to distract your opponent etc. All top-level-players do drops! That is a pretty good sign that drops are valid Especially if you are Sera and drop Ilshavoh or if you are Aeon and drop Harbs e.g.

And regarding the general plan before the game. This doesn't mean you HAVE to execute this plan exactly the way you originally wanted. Its more like getting aware of the metagame of the map and the strategy you wanna execute.

For Roanoke Abyss for example it is crucial if you can catch the early transport of your opponent. So you can think about a strategy to deny that transport. But of course you need to stay flexible as the game develops.

Statistics: Posted by Hascins — 20 May 2015, 11:25

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-19T22:33:24+02:00

Flamingo wrote:
Flynn wrote:Like I said in the very quote you replied to, I speak from experience. Obviously I have made the judgement based on experience which means that I have tried these suggestions.

Well drops are kind of a risk/reward thing, aren't they? You can't say to never perform drops. What if you can get a unit of skirmishers over a ridge your opponent was relying on as a natural defense? Interceptors might stop bombers or gunships that go over there, but land a small ground force and you'll wreak havoc, even if some of that force dies en route.

It's the same as building stationary artillery. Normally it's worthless, but there are those rare occasions when you look at the earlier availability, slightly higher range, and larger attack power, you see they've got TMDs, and you can go for it. After that they can either eat the shells flying into their base, they can build shields, or they can push to destroy your artillery before it earns back its looming price tag. Stationary artillery isn't very good and you shouldn't recommend using it casually, but you can predict how it will make your opponent respond and that's what strategy is all about. Making your opponent respond in the ways you want.

I mean, you've got these tools. They do things. Some tools are called for much more rarely and you've got to respect their practical value, but if you see a situation where you've got to unscrew one of those stupid flat-head hexagon socket screws, don't try to pry it out with the back end of your hammer. T1 land spam is effective and versatile, but watching the top players, they use all kinds of very nasty tricks on each other and don't seem to discount anything they've got if they spot an opening.

Good examples, you've got a way with words, I'll grant you that.

codepants wrote:
Flynn wrote:Like I said in the very quote you replied to, I speak from experience. Obviously I have made the judgement based on experience which means that I have tried these suggestions.

I'm sorry, but someone has to say this.

You're being an ass.

Obviously your experience is wrong.

You're the person who rides a bike that doesn't fit and then decides all bikes are crap (I'm a bike mechanic, but choose your metaphor).

You have 3.5k games. Congrats. Apparently that is meaningless because you are still lower ranked than the average player with only 1k games.

Don't listen to experience then. Listen to rank. As long as you listen and try new things -- even things that haven't worked before. Excuse the bike metaphor again, but the first time you get on a race bike, it hurts. So you train on a bike with a less aggressive stance. Then later you get on the race bike and it works beautifully.

You are the person stuck on the bike of a novice. Stop being so stubborn, and take the advice of the people who are better than you, because clearly what you are doing isn't working, even though you've done it 3,500 times.

I've played with you, talked with you, I like you and respect you. But if you keep being stubborn you will not get better.

Reasonable post, if a little harsh.

Edit: I understand why I can't improve. It's because I've got a memory like a sieve. Every game I forgot some basic thing, whether it is energy spam, to build air, raid, tech, factory rally points, anything. I just don't seem capable of remembering everything. It is beyond my capabilities and that is why watching replays won't help me.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 19 Feb 2015, 22:33

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-19T19:26:57+02:00

Flynn wrote:
Like I said in the very quote you replied to, I speak from experience. Obviously I have made the judgement based on experience which means that I have tried these suggestions.

I'm sorry, but someone has to say this.

You're being an ass.

Obviously your experience is wrong.

You're the person who rides a bike that doesn't fit and then decides all bikes are crap (I'm a bike mechanic, but choose your metaphor).

You have 3.5k games. Congrats. Apparently that is meaningless because you are still lower ranked than the average player with only 1k games.

Don't listen to experience then. Listen to rank. As long as you listen and try new things -- even things that haven't worked before. Excuse the bike metaphor again, but the first time you get on a race bike, it hurts. So you train on a bike with a less aggressive stance. Then later you get on the race bike and it works beautifully.

You are the person stuck on the bike of a novice. Stop being so stubborn, and take the advice of the people who are better than you, because clearly what you are doing isn't working, even though you've done it 3,500 times.

I've played with you, talked with you, I like you and respect you. But if you keep being stubborn you will not get better.

Statistics: Posted by codepants — 19 Feb 2015, 19:26

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-19T18:59:05+02:00

Flynn wrote:
I disagree with drops, even with air superiority your transport can be in the wrong place at the wrong time and get shot down, three t3 tanks lost in one go. Remember I speak from experience, I have played 3.5k games all together.

How about scouting for AA and opponents air units first, then trick the opponent to send air units away from your drop by making a non-expensive bombing run on the other side of the map or something similar?

Statistics: Posted by Viba — 19 Feb 2015, 18:59

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-19T02:09:07+02:00

honestly you must make some big mistakes in game. you just need someone to watch your replays and point them out for you. as you become aware of more and more mistakes you would slowly phase them out, win more games, and rating goes up to 1500.

so my advice would be to find someone who has the time for that ... and then be super nice to them and not so argumentative all of the time.

or get zock lessons. he will straighten you out.

(I got zock lesssons. they are brilliant)

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 19 Feb 2015, 02:09

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-18T23:50:59+02:00

Flynn wrote:
Like I said in the very quote you replied to, I speak from experience. Obviously I have made the judgement based on experience which means that I have tried these suggestions.

Well drops are kind of a risk/reward thing, aren't they? You can't say to never perform drops. What if you can get a unit of skirmishers over a ridge your opponent was relying on as a natural defense? Interceptors might stop bombers or gunships that go over there, but land a small ground force and you'll wreak havoc, even if some of that force dies en route.

It's the same as building stationary artillery. Normally it's worthless, but there are those rare occasions when you look at the earlier availability, slightly higher range, and larger attack power, you see they've got TMDs, and you can go for it. After that they can either eat the shells flying into their base, they can build shields, or they can push to destroy your artillery before it earns back its looming price tag. Stationary artillery isn't very good and you shouldn't recommend using it casually, but you can predict how it will make your opponent respond and that's what strategy is all about. Making your opponent respond in the ways you want.

I mean, you've got these tools. They do things. Some tools are called for much more rarely and you've got to respect their practical value, but if you see a situation where you've got to unscrew one of those stupid flat-head hexagon socket screws, don't try to pry it out with the back end of your hammer. T1 land spam is effective and versatile, but watching the top players, they use all kinds of very nasty tricks on each other and don't seem to discount anything they've got if they spot an opening.

Statistics: Posted by Flamingo — 18 Feb 2015, 23:50

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-18T22:38:27+02:00

Like I said in the very quote you replied to, I speak from experience. Obviously I have made the judgement based on experience which means that I have tried these suggestions.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 18 Feb 2015, 22:38

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-18T22:27:03+02:00

Flynn wrote:
I disagree with drops, even with air superiority your transport can be in the wrong place at the wrong time and get shot down, three t3 tanks lost in one go. Remember I speak from experience, I have played 3.5k games all together.

You ask for advice to improve, yet I have only seen you dismissing every piece of advice ever given, often by players that are way better than you (this isn't an insult). If you actually want to improve you need to try the advice and practice on it to get better. If you don't want to practice and improve, that's fine too. You first need to decide what you want. I kinda decided that I won't get to be a top player because I don't have enough time to practice all the time and that's fine.

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 18 Feb 2015, 22:27

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-18T20:52:34+02:00

Whatever, man. Point stays. When you get stuck in the same rating, it means you need to change something.

Statistics: Posted by Darth_Google — 18 Feb 2015, 20:52

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-18T20:44:46+02:00

Hey Flynn, I watched a game you were in not long ago, and your macro was good. You've got a handle on the game's mechanics, but your micro was a little weak. In a game between you and Nequilich, you had the tendency to park your army within his firing range while you built up your numbers. Nequilich kept picking off units that way. You were also using a lot of artillery, but you would usually move them up, park them, then have them be shot - with an artillery build you need to be kiting. Fire on a target, then fall back to something defensible like your ACU or a point defense - you take advantage of the unit's range and you cover the downfall of its low HP that way. The idea is that you're creating constant pressure. If the enemy sits there, they'll get shelled, and if they chase you, they run into a gun emplacement.

Of course, it's one thing to be calm and collected during a replay and say, "Okay, here's what you need to do". Under stress it's easy to get your attention broken and anxiety can trick your brain into being too conservative.

Do you have any friends you know who are below your skill level? I've got a bunch of guys I play with of varying skill, and sometimes it's really nice to play 1v1 with someone who's not as good because it gives you a chance to practice fiddly things you're less comfortable with. There's no glory in punching down, of course, but you can shoot the breeze with your friend while you play, so it's social bonding, and afterward you can talk about how the game went so it winds up being experience and practice for both of you. It's easier to focus in a no-stress environment.

Statistics: Posted by Flamingo — 18 Feb 2015, 20:44

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-18T19:36:12+02:00

I disagree with drops, even with air superiority your transport can be in the wrong place at the wrong time and get shot down, three t3 tanks lost in one go. Remember I speak from experience, I have played 3.5k games all together.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 18 Feb 2015, 19:36

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-17T23:02:42+02:00

Flynn wrote:
I find I often have more success when I use my instincts to dictate what I do rather than playing to a specific plan. Also when you say I argue with people that their suggestions won't work I speak from experience. For instance, Darth_Google stated that you have nothing to lose from drops. That is indeed false. You have the transport to lose, plus whatever units that are in the transport. Drops against a good player often fail and cost you valuable units and micro that you could have used for upgrading mexes for instance.

And for your examples of planning, again, my instincts tell me when to do what. Normally if I try to plan it is a disaster. Why make a plan? That is so inflexible. You need to react to what your enemy does and force him to react to you. If he doesn't go t2 and you do because it is in your plan, you will get overrun all because you wanted to stick to some stupid plan.

Your plan can be as fluid as you like, actually. And my point stays.

About drops - it is a thing that many, many people tend to forget. One of the common mistakes players do, so i suggested you to try those if you dont do drops already.

Rough idea is that your rating is fixed and therefore you need to change SOMETHING in your playstyle in order to raise it.

Statistics: Posted by Darth_Google — 17 Feb 2015, 23:02

Re: 1v1 Improvement?

2015-02-17T19:27:36+02:00

I find I often have more success when I use my instincts to dictate what I do rather than playing to a specific plan. Also when you say I argue with people that their suggestions won't work I speak from experience. For instance, Darth_Google stated that you have nothing to lose from drops. That is indeed false. You have the transport to lose, plus whatever units that are in the transport. Drops against a good player often fail and cost you valuable units and micro that you could have used for upgrading mexes for instance.

And for your examples of planning, again, my instincts tell me when to do what. Normally if I try to plan it is a disaster. Why make a plan? That is so inflexible. You need to react to what your enemy does and force him to react to you. If he doesn't go t2 and you do because it is in your plan, you will get overrun all because you wanted to stick to some stupid plan.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 17 Feb 2015, 19:27