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Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-10-09T09:10:30+02:00

Apofenas wrote:
There was a map called Haven of war(not GW version) which is removing some mexes on the starting position if player isn't spawned there, which turns a 3v3 map into a good 1v1, 1v2, 3v2,... map for any positions. If same would be done with 4v4 version, there wouldn't be need in 1v1. Can you do that?

There is a mod that does just that for every map.

Statistics: Posted by Krapougnak — 09 Oct 2014, 09:10

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-10-09T08:18:15+02:00

If he is not using border zones than you can't just enlarge a map.

I also don't see how that would help not throwing over eh complete layout.

Statistics: Posted by Lionhardt — 09 Oct 2014, 08:18

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-10-08T23:18:46+02:00

or the maps diameter could be enlarged to adapt?

Statistics: Posted by ShadowInTheDark — 08 Oct 2014, 23:18

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-10-08T20:05:14+02:00

Running the river all the way through would completely throw over the map layout. Bad idea.

Statistics: Posted by Lionhardt — 08 Oct 2014, 20:05

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-10-08T18:47:52+02:00

Id play it.

look forward to trying it.

also I think the whole river part should go straight through the map.
idk I enjoy river maps..

Statistics: Posted by ShadowInTheDark — 08 Oct 2014, 18:47

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-10-08T12:21:14+02:00

There was a map called Haven of war(not GW version) which is removing some mexes on the starting position if player isn't spawned there, which turns a 3v3 map into a good 1v1, 1v2, 3v2,... map for any positions. If same would be done with 4v4 version, there wouldn't be need in 1v1. Can you do that?

Statistics: Posted by Apofenas — 08 Oct 2014, 12:21

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-10-08T10:08:42+02:00

Thank you for your feedback !!!
I am not a mapper, I am a developer that tries to learn it xD

I have cool map ideas

DragonBeach:
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=6214&sid=2bbd1da56d12ac3e9dcb7ada9cfc76dc#p61416

and DragonIsland is on the vault

I want only make "different tactical" maps ...
Maybe with you I can make "different tactical beautifull" maps xD

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 08 Oct 2014, 10:08

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-10-07T22:28:34+02:00

Something on the mountains, which are always one of the hardest things.

The mountains are quite sharp and ridgy. I see it in the corners in particular. Those can really be lowered. I don't know how many maps you have made and I don't want to call you a beginner without knowing it, but this is something I only see people do on their first maps

Another thing I see is that you use the elevation "peak" brush a lot. Those things don't actually make the mountains look better. I use it only at the max setting (40) with a very, very low effect (0.010), to give the mountains a bit less of a perfectly smooth look. This is quite the opposite. It's fairly easy to deal with, use the blur tool (again with a very low effect).

The lay-out is pretty good though

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 07 Oct 2014, 22:28

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-10-07T19:41:24+02:00

1vs1 version uploaded into the map vault.

on my todo-list:

to much hydros
ask for suggestions

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 07 Oct 2014, 19:41

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-01-19T23:03:43+02:00

I agree with rockoe. I think the map would achieve much better 4v4 flow if you were to shift the rear players to the raised platforms at the half-way point of each side, and create a gap in the mountain chain of the topleft/bottomright enclosure for access from the right-most player of each team. This would create a rotational dynamic to the game-flow, keep all players active, avoid an 'Air' spot existing, and open up team-play options.

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 19 Jan 2014, 23:03

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-01-18T15:33:47+02:00

I didn't yet play it (Was afraid to with the v4 and v5 :/), but i think it looks really good. My only mark is that the map's "Flow" feels more like a 3v3. I don't know, it just feels "off" with it being 4v4. Again, this is just from seeing the blueprint, not actual game play.

P.S.
The 4th player is Meta-gamed into being an air player. I'm not for meta-gaming someone before the game even starts...

Statistics: Posted by rockoe10 — 18 Jan 2014, 15:33

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-01-09T11:44:37+02:00

Somebody reuploaded my map two times,
Dragon Beach v3 is atm the newest version !!!

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 09 Jan 2014, 11:44

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-01-08T14:42:18+02:00

I have no idea how the world border are generated, but at 5x10 maps, there are 5x5 .... so 2.5km of top and bottom are missing ...
The solution is to cretae a 10x10 map and to create a "AREA_1" (playable area + script things) with 5x10 into the 10x10 map.
If you have another solution, it would be cool (expect turn world border off)

@FunkOff:
I rework Dragon River, see attachment

Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 08 Jan 2014, 14:42

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-01-08T13:53:20+02:00

Dragonfire wrote:
Ahh, I found some of these maps while I was fixing GW maps.
The problem is the map dimension.
you create e.g. 10x5 map ...
that is wrong, create a 10x10 map and create a playable area of 10x5.

Hey...

I build a asymetrical map by my own but never got these problems a 5x20 5x10 and so on ... even without a defined playable area. The map or world border must be generated by another way, not by only the defined playable Area. I will post this in the mapping Forum maybe someon there could help. But thanks for you effort.

Statistics: Posted by McGeifer — 08 Jan 2014, 13:53

Re: [Map] Dragon River

2014-01-08T02:36:28+02:00

I recommend air spots in the lower right + upper left corners with cliffs cutting them off from the land. That would be cool.

Statistics: Posted by FunkOff — 08 Jan 2014, 02:36