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Re: FAF version (GPG & unknown author map rework)

2020-08-27T18:25:12+02:00

ThomasHiatt wrote:
I posted in your other map thread and then found out that this one exists.

Can you make a Loki - FAF version please? The current version of Loki in use has 2x reclaim in trees on all areas of the map for the bottom left player. I tried to do it myself but the map editor is too triggering.

Hey, the issue is already documented. I'm currently pretty busy with non FAF projects, but I will try to fix it next month.

Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 27 Aug 2020, 18:25

Re: FAF version (GPG & unknown author map rework)

2020-08-06T02:38:33+02:00

I posted in your other map thread and then found out that this one exists.

Can you make a Loki - FAF version please? The current version of Loki in use has 2x reclaim in trees on all areas of the map for the bottom left player. I tried to do it myself but the map editor is too triggering.

Statistics: Posted by ThomasHiatt — 06 Aug 2020, 02:38

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2020-06-21T00:14:19+02:00

Red Rocks - FAF version
bottom based rework from unknown author map (v59): Red Rocks

Issue 23
FAF version ensures symmetrical props. The 180° rotation of the props results in a slight increase of mass and energy.

red_rocks_props_compare.png
red_rocks_mid_compare_new.png

Issue 24a
The FAF version ensures symmetrical marker.
Almost every resource & spawn marker had to be moved to the corresponding 180 ° position (gray circle).
--> ARMY_1
red_rocks_marker_bottom_rework.png

Issue 24b
The map now contains improved AI marker and ensures the use of all mexes through the AI (to close to the edge bug resolved).
--> No air marker displayed

Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 21 Jun 2020, 00:14

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2020-06-23T00:03:38+02:00

Crossfire Canal - FAF version
bottom based rework from original FA map (v60): SCMP_024

Issue 22
ARMY spawns set to odd vs even. Needed for team-match-maker.
crossfire_army_spawn_even_odd.png

Issue 1 & 19
FAF version ensures symmetrical marker and props.
Almost every resource marker & spawn had to be moved to the corresponding 180 ° position (gray circle).

Marker
--> ARMY_2

--> ARMY_4 (former ARMY_3)

--> ARMY_6 (former ARMY_5)

Props
The 180° rotation of the props does not change the mass and energy values.

Issue 20
The map now contains improved AI marker.
--> No air and amphibuous marker displayed

Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 13 May 2020, 00:15

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2020-06-23T00:03:18+02:00

Syrtis Major - FAF version
top based rework from original FA map (v60): SCMP_017

Issue 2, 17 & 21
FAF version ensures symmetrical marker, props, structures and no rush radius.
The 180° rotation of the props and structure rework results in a total increase of 309 mass and 430 energy (see below).
Almost every resource marker & spawn had to be moved to the corresponding 180 ° position (gray circle).

Marker
--> ARMY_1

--> ARMY_3

Props
The 180° rotation of the props results in a slight increase of mass and energy.

Structures
In the middle and on the sides, the distribution and the sum of mass has been adjusted.
An energy generator has been added to the middle to compensate for the loss of an 61 mass Structure. An energy storage (203 mass) has also been added to the mid to compensate for the T2 AA (324 mass) which is closer to player 2.
mid base: 3606 mass > 3806 mass
top base: 231 mass > 304 mass
bottom base: 341 mass > 304 mass
The total unit based mass gain is 236 mass.

Issue 18
The map now contains improved AI marker.
--> No air marker displayed

Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 13 May 2020, 00:13

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2020-06-23T00:04:17+02:00

Setons Clutch - FAF version
bottom based rework from original FA map (v60): SCMP_009

Issue 3 & 15
FAF version ensures symmetrical marker, props, units and no rush radius.
Almost every resource marker & spawn had to be moved to the corresponding 180 ° position (gray circle).

Marker
--> Front

--> Rock

--> Beach

--> Air

--> Island
"Too close the the edge" error resolved: The AI cannot use resource markers that are closer than 8 game units to the edge of the map.

Props
The 180° rotation of the props results in a slight decrease of mass and energy.

Units
In order to largely maintain the middle, the existing positions of the UEF units were used to determine the 180 ° position of the corresponding Cybran units (except Destroyer). In this undertaking, the mass distribution was adjusted. The mass difference is 0.
UEF (bottom): 6128 mass > 5350 mass // -2 titans
Cybran (top): 4376 mass > 5154 mass // +2 Loyalists

Issue 14
The known bug in the heightmap has been removed. There is no longer an extra land-water path for amphibious units on the top side of the map.

Issue 16
The map now contains improved AI marker.
--> No air marker displayed

Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 13 May 2020, 00:06

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2020-05-10T11:11:03+02:00

On setons below top mid spawn there is some unintended path trought montain.
Bottom spot does not have it

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 10 May 2020, 11:11

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2019-10-05T16:36:58+02:00

keyser wrote:
that's why we had a new version with fewer civ building after this change iirc.

might have just confused stuff around

can't help on the FA or vanilla version.

Do not worry, the FA (v60) version seems to be the default. And the changes in the "FAF version" are based on the values/structures of the Fa (v60) version.

Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 05 Oct 2019, 16:36

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2019-10-05T16:30:22+02:00

that's why we had a new version with fewer civ building after this change iirc.

might have just confused stuff around

can't help on the FA or vanilla version.

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 05 Oct 2019, 16:30

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2019-10-05T15:31:26+02:00

keyser wrote:
Side info: Mid base difference between Vanilla (v56) and FA (v60) map version

just for information, the civilian building weren't worth anything until this fix https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2308
that's why we had a new version with fewer civ building after this change iirc.

Hey, thx for the info!
Do you mean a different Theta version? I'm pretty sure that the stock maps are different.

v56: \Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander\maps
v60: \THQ\Gas Powered Games\Supreme Commander - Forged Alliance\maps

That's why I was asking myself if v60 maps from FA are loaded preferred to the v56 from original Supcom. Because I was unable to launch the v56 from the old client. Only v60 was available for choosing.

Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 05 Oct 2019, 15:31

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2019-10-05T15:21:11+02:00

Side info: Mid base difference between Vanilla (v56) and FA (v60) map version

just for information, the civilian building weren't worth anything until this fix https://github.com/FAForever/fa/pull/2308
that's why we had a new version with fewer civ building after this change iirc.

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 05 Oct 2019, 15:21

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2020-06-22T23:59:48+02:00

Theta Passage - FAF version
from original FA map (v60): SCMP_012

Issue 8
-ensures a mirrored/balanced heightmap
--> GPG vs FAF version

Issue 7 & 9
-ensures balanced/mirrored marker, units/structures and props

10 mass rocks + marker.JPG
Its really hard to find a good prop solution for Theta Passage. Simply mirroring one original side will not match the original reclaim numbers (mass, energy), because we are going to mirror unbalanced/uneven sides. That's why I distributed the props evenly around the whole middle mountain. I used the props from "Adaptive Theta Passage" as basis. Added some "pod" props to the bottom plateau and reached almost the same mass (+11) and energy (+3) as the original. I'm still open for suggestions or even a finished prop export for import and testing.

-AI Marker added from Adaptive Theta Passage
--> No air marker displayed

Side info: Mid base difference between Vanilla (v56) and FA (v60) map version

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Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 05 Oct 2019, 14:41

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2019-10-05T16:40:43+02:00

Haven Reef - FAF version
from original FA map (v60): X1MP_004

Issue 12 & Supreme Props integration fix -->Supreme what?
-FAF version ensures symmetric placement of props and units
-incorporates the fixes from "Haven Reef Fixed" e.g heightmap --> Thx to Tokyto

>mid base

>side base

Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 05 Oct 2019, 14:24

Re: GPG/official map issues & fixes

2019-10-05T16:41:28+02:00

Eye of the Storm - FAF version
from original FA map (v60): X1MP_017

Supreme Props integration fix -->Supreme what?
"Aeon_Fence" aka "The Light" prop got replaced by "Aeon Dock" to restore the former 300 mass.

Issue 11
FAF version ensures symmetrical hydros and middle mexes

Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 05 Oct 2019, 14:18

FAF version (GPG & unknown author map rework)

2020-06-21T14:06:05+02:00

Hello everybody,

the aim of the FAF version is to guarantee fair gaming conditions and to improve the gaming experience of our beloved GPG (Gas Powered Games) maps (stock maps included in the original game) as well as influential unknown author maps.

Do you sometimes get annoyed about unbalanced props, different mex arrangement or unevenly distributed units in GPG or ladder maps?
If the map author is no longer active, you are welcome to inform us about the problem here.
Your could even send us fixes. But be aware that they will be checked/tested by M&M and ladder team.
Map upload of approved contend stays in the hands of M&M! Please don't upload any " - FAF version" yourself.

DOCUMENTED ISSUES
-Please check in advance if the issue is already documented or fixed
-If the problem is not documented, please let us know

The following maps have already been revised and can be found in the vault under the suffix "FAF version":

GPG --> Credit and thanks for creating these maps
Crossfire Canal - FAF version
Eye of the Storm - FAF version
Haven Reef - FAF version
Setons Clutch - FAF version
Syrtis Major - FAF version
Theta Passage - FAF version

Unknown Author --> Credit and thanks for creating these maps
Red Rocks - FAF version

M&M workflow: How to create a " - FAF version"?!

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Statistics: Posted by svenni_badbwoi — 05 Oct 2019, 14:15