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Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-20T07:15:00+02:00

Ze_pilot after much reconsideration and testing I have found my claim to be wrong. Please lock this topic as I long longer wish to propose a change upon the matter of t3 torp bomber costs.

Statistics: Posted by Supreme321 — 20 Feb 2013, 07:15

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-19T10:30:10+02:00

Yeah fix the ridiculous t2 sera torp. I'm all for faction diversity, but as it is, it may as well be removed from the building list. Better do t2 gunships that this useless unit, or even better, make aeon torps which are not countered by anti torps

Back on topic, the t3 torp seems strong and fast enough already. I don't really see the reason of the change.

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 19 Feb 2013, 10:30

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-19T03:01:23+02:00

And in general, if we make air even in cost effectiveness against naval AA, they why would anyone ever build navy?

Statistics: Posted by stalewee — 19 Feb 2013, 03:01

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-18T13:02:50+02:00

i think all torp bombers are fine as they are - besides the sera torp bomber.

concerning the aoen t3 torp - very fast, good hp, a lot of dmg, it is fair for the prize.

Statistics: Posted by Batmansrueckkehr — 18 Feb 2013, 13:02

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-18T00:10:20+02:00

I think torp bombers are already too strong against cruisers.

Also, does increasing the "engage distance" means that that bomber will drop the torpedos earlier? That would make it almost impossible to snipe a commander standing in a small pool of water (e.g. at "rock" on a certain popular map)

Statistics: Posted by stalewee — 18 Feb 2013, 00:10

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-17T15:04:41+02:00

Stratocaster wrote:
On this topic, can someone do something about Sera Torp bomber?

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 17 Feb 2013, 15:04

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-17T10:18:25+02:00

On this topic, can someone do something about Sera Torp bomber? It's the only one with torps that get eaten up torp defense and it's just plain utterly useless vs the naval units, the only units it is designed to attack.

Statistics: Posted by Stratocaster — 17 Feb 2013, 10:18

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-16T19:23:33+02:00

torp bombers already cost effectively counter cruisers (talking about t2, haven't played aeon enough to be sure about the t3 one)

Statistics: Posted by eXivo — 16 Feb 2013, 19:23

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-16T11:48:16+02:00

T3 aeon torp bombers are worth their price, and are unique (faction flavour) and quite strong. Aeon is most likely to get air superiority and when you have it, just a few of them will wipe out entire navys in no time. No you can't use them to kill ennemy base torpedo launchers by flying over SAMs, and yes multiple cruisers would kill them. Cruiser means AA, so it is expected.

Maybe ALL (T2/T3) torpedo bombers could use an hp boost, however. I do not use them offen, as as long as there is 1 or 2 cruisers in navy, it feels like wasted mass. Thats why i am thinking of more HP. But if i am Aeon, i use the T3 a lot, as they are always nice to see in action, even when they die at first pass. Just have to plan them to get maximum profit.

One feature that may be be cool, however would be "real" torpedos which goes for a long range, allowing the plane to successfully deliver its charge most of the time, even if it get killed just after that by going over ennemy navy. But i don't think it is doable or a real good idea for FA as it stands.

Statistics: Posted by Poch — 16 Feb 2013, 11:48

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-15T21:19:35+02:00

For a unit that does 4000 damage? Please consider the following:

If the T3 torpedo bomber does succeed, the cruiser is destroyed.
As said, the torpedo bomber does 4000 damage in a single run (I know it says 2K instead of 4K in the unitDB, but that is an error). Strategic bombers cost more than that, but have a lower speed and do less damage. I haven't seen many occasions in which the strategic bombers were expected to last longer than one bombing run, yet you do expect a torpedo bomber to last longer than one run, while it costs less and is more effective?
The cruiser is a dedicated AA unit. Shouldn't it be able to trump a torpedo bomber, the very unit it is supposed to defend its fleet against (Even if it is T3)? I think of it as flak vs T2 gunships.

Statistics: Posted by Plasma_Wolf — 15 Feb 2013, 21:19

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-15T20:47:36+02:00

I agree with all of the above.

Statistics: Posted by HyperNova — 15 Feb 2013, 20:47

Re: Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-15T20:42:55+02:00

I would be in favour of buffing all torpedo bombers, particularly that one though.

The problem to me seems to be the bombers not dropping rather than the range. If you put a ship near land its safe from torp bombers, this is a particular problem on eots. Perhaps reducing the range and drop distance would help.

Statistics: Posted by Arkansas — 15 Feb 2013, 20:42

Buffing the t3 torpedo bomber.

2013-02-15T18:28:32+02:00

Aeon t3 Torp Bomber (solace)
Mass: 1650 --> 1200
energy: 55000--> 60000
Build Time: 6600-->5600
engage distance: 50-->75

The t3 Torp bomber seems useless simply because it costs the same as a cruiser, which it will most likely be used to kill it, so if you fail at killing the cruiser then you pretty much lost the equivalent cost of a cruiser easily.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 15 Feb 2013, 18:28