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Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-22T01:29:11+02:00

yea no change need, t3 subs have great sonar anyway...

If you have the nasty-est subs, why bother making a t3 sonar at all... as a race you feel the waters are yours.

Here is something to chew on, how about the fact they get a the cheapest Nuke launcher that might not even be seen as such, that cost a fraction of a normal one, only 9k mass, and 54k power, and if you want to kill it, you have to do 49000hp worth of damage to it! Not to mention AA, Tac missile def, and long range cannons. thats a real steal! considering.

Statistics: Posted by Typo91 — 22 Feb 2013, 01:29

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-20T14:40:53+02:00

I use t1 scouts to keep an eye on the naval factory of my opponent, the ret can be done with the t2 sonar and spy planes later on. I do not see a reason to change this, barely a problem.

Statistics: Posted by jabwd — 20 Feb 2013, 14:40

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-20T08:57:12+02:00

Epson wrote:
When I have to do that that it isn't faction diversity it's just another annoying micro.

It is diversity.
And the ANNOYING micro is because you can't cope up with the faction YOU chose to play.

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 20 Feb 2013, 08:57

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-20T04:18:03+02:00

How about a T3 sonar upgrade but with very limited omni or none at all? On small maps and 1v1 I don't need T3. On maps like Seton's you do need it. I always find myself just asking for another faction's engineer just to build this.

When I have to do that that it isn't faction diversity it's just another annoying micro.

Sera Hover shields vs Aeon hover shields vs UEF shield boat vs Cybran stealth(debatable) is diversity. Not removing something altogether.

Statistics: Posted by Epson — 20 Feb 2013, 04:18

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-18T11:03:18+02:00

Yeah! Give them t3 sonar in addition to t3 subs and mobile shields! Make them over powered!!!

P.S. this was a sarcasm. so Im against.

Statistics: Posted by Rediska — 18 Feb 2013, 11:03

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-18T10:18:39+02:00

Seraph have T3 Spy Plane with sonar. Aside from Cybran (who are designed for intel based warfare) UEF and Aeon Spy Planes lack it. The superior T2 sonar coupled with a T3 Spy Plane equiped with sonar provide a good argument that this was done intentionally for faction diversity. My vote, no change. Make those Yathsous work for it, they already have incredible vision radius anyway.

Statistics: Posted by Quarian — 18 Feb 2013, 10:18

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-16T17:44:27+02:00

There is maybe another way to keep faction diversity : if Seraphim is the faction where units have a dual role, maybe it's a good idea to give a strong sonar to the Carrier, like 400 range sonar (with 200 energy consumption or something like that). Thus, it can move, it's different from other factions because 10 times more expensive but it still exists somewhere in the Sera arsenal.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 16 Feb 2013, 17:44

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-16T17:09:30+02:00

-_V_- wrote:
faction diversity. No change

this

Sera is strong enough, they don't need a moving t2 sonar.

Statistics: Posted by Zock — 16 Feb 2013, 17:09

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-16T17:03:39+02:00

for the sake of faction diversity, please no t3 sonar
a (slowly) moving t2 sonar would be fair

Statistics: Posted by Myxir — 16 Feb 2013, 17:03

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-16T16:16:33+02:00

Give the t2 sonar the ability to move, then it's good enough.

Statistics: Posted by pip — 16 Feb 2013, 16:16

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-16T04:53:44+02:00

faction diversity. No change

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 16 Feb 2013, 04:53

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-15T23:53:02+02:00

Stratocaster wrote:
You'd have a better chance asking for the T2 sonar to be able to move.

+1

Not a bad idea.

Statistics: Posted by noms — 15 Feb 2013, 23:53

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-15T22:10:36+02:00

That plus it's offset by superior t3 navy with very high faction diversity. T3 sub hunter, bship with nuker and great fire rate, carrier with long range and high speed AA shots and cruiser missile, t2 destroyers that are very tanky subs, t3 mobile shields, and engineers that can't be killed with torps. You'd have a better chance asking for the T2 sonar to be able to move.

Statistics: Posted by Stratocaster — 15 Feb 2013, 22:10

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-15T18:52:57+02:00

seraphim t2 sonar is better than the other t2 sonars (has longer range)

Statistics: Posted by eXivo — 15 Feb 2013, 18:52

Re: T3 sonar for Seraphim.

2013-02-15T18:36:14+02:00

I'm against this. It's a factional disadvantage for seraphim, they do have enough good units, they dont need a buff.

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 15 Feb 2013, 18:36