then i can show how it should be used and where it would be helpful in my eyes.
could your therefore finish this modification you already have so far? then the video is more easier to be made. then from there i can talk about diffrent units and so on..
A BIT DETAILED:
if you look at the PD, i even have to look if they swing back at some time, i think not.
it would be nice anyway to have a key/command where we could tell the unit where to look at.
right now, you have to use the fire-at-ground command to get the muzzle heading the right way, then press the stop button to stop the firing of the unit, then you go back in the normal firing stance.
this will not be the aim of this tiny mod. but would be very useful in my eyes.
as noted by codepants before, some static units do turn when enemy is in sight / or in radar range.
i wanted to check when arti is turning, but i would bet they start turning when the object is in firing range. i am going to test this (haha, i need time that i dont have).
then, the question is, when do they swing back? T2 arti is not i think.
so if you have them turned into your base because some fast unit passed by, they do not swing back.
this is another thing that could be quick solved with a key that lets you change with one klick (while or after pressing the (has-to-be-made) rotate-turret-button) the direction the unit/barrel is looking at.
this would be a key and it would still be micro, but thats good.
to help the player further, it would be nice to set a homing direction that could be set for all static units. and it should not only be a point on the map but also a north/west/South and so on direction.
if some units are selected it would be nice to set a point, but that would be the button talked about earlier. it would then be nice if the use of the set-view-button writes this point on the map/point of the compass into the units homing position. 5 secs (this could be changed by a slider for everyones needs and because it could be to low for situations i describe second paragraph later (about tanks) and too high for other situations) after the unit is destroyed and no other unit is present, even the arti should go back to the homing position that was given.
you could even think about giving some units in a formation different stances: half of them has a low homing counter, the other one a really high one.
if you are being attacked and being overrun (and have heavy units) half of them would look behind and fire in that direction (new units run inside their firing arc and they take those as the next unit they fire at, the other units with low homing counter swing right away back.
this would then also need a priority function because the homing zone shall be the number one priority for the unit and not the unit that is ne closest to the turret heading.. seems to be even the most complicated of the stuff i described so far.
i want to say it (again?) and make it clearer: this is what i think about (brainstorming), what would be nice is what I described "IN SHORT"
when tanks are moved, they could view in their homing direction even when they are patrolling or moving in a different direction.
it would be nice if the counter of the homing time could be changed via a slider.
who does not know this behavior: your units walk into a direction but the enemy is attacking from the side. you keep the direction of moving and your units shoot at one target that comes from behind.
but there are more (coming from behind). Just before the next enemy reaches fire range, the turrets of your units swing back to homing position. then they turn back and so forth. this could be solved by changing the counter of the homing popsition.
the homing position then could be reset by using the "right click and drag the direction of facing stance".
this is the way all of us use the formation plus facing "tactic".
also the attack button can be used to set not only the direction of the attack and the point to target but to look always in this direction.
if afterwards a new look directon is given, the move and attack commands should stay as ordered.
you could make zig zag movements towards the enemy, but the muzzles look always at the enemy. AWESOME!
needless to say that many of you are just thinkin "there is the thing you ask for" (formations).
but this is not quite right. ok, its ok for just this case, but when you do not want to change the formation (it also takes too long and they run around to formate again and eventually go inside enemies firing range) but only change the heading of the turrets to one side where the next attack comes from (i.e. you already see where it is coming from) this new function would come in handy.
this would also change a tiny bit of the tactics that can be used.
its not so that a formation is always facing the direction the formation is being attacked from.
right now the formation is the stroingest where it is looking at and positioned to.
if the facing of the turets can be chanbed, they could be "strong" against a surprise attack from either side (depending where the turrets a heading).
if you see a bomber approaching, you could set the heading of all AA untis into the apropriate direction.
this would also be true to all units like TMDs and so on.
to talk about this even further: you could take for instance 9 tanks and put them in a square. they all could face different directions and quickly fight "their" direction.
even a move order would not "destroy" given direction.
those who are a bit interested in formations and so on know that those formation existed by the roman empire (and surely before that) and even little tank groups all face a different direction.
now for those of you who throw unit after unit into batle, this would be too time consuming. for those why like tiny and little maps and also like to thingk strategic in even the "every unit counts" way, this would be another level of .. epicness
just to make it clear: this would be more than a tiny mod and this i do not expect to happen. i do not know if this would even be possible (as said in this thread before).
but if we could change the counter of the homing stance manually and lets say in future even in a way static and mobile with an own counter, that would make it possible for me tho test further the usability and usefulness.
P.S.:
when you start a game, ALL units look in the same direction. when built they look in the same direction. North VS south has therfore a littlel handycap for one side. to make it clear:
you build an T2 artillery and you needx it to fire into the crowd that is getting bigger and bigger. you are done building. now, this slow turret has to turn into the direction!
well, it depends where you are (i forgot which side). the once player has it facing the right way and it can fire right from the start, the other side has to wait for 180°.
this is now not possible because the orientation of the buildings has to be selected -> i think there were discussion about factories and facin direction..
P.S.2: even the ACU would profit from this: when you reclaim and even if you arre doing a clickfest, the commander is swinging back to his homing position->wasted time.
if the homing position could have a higer timeout, the ACU would not spin the commander dizzy.
Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 08 Mar 2015, 12:53
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