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Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-04T00:03:39+02:00

Poch wrote:
experimental nuke can take out 1,000,000 HP units so a sat capable of taking it would be almost unkillable by any conventionnal means i think

1M HP for 28k mass would be 35 hp / mass
One of the best units in the game regarding hp/mass are T1 factories i think : only 15 hp / mass
For mobile unit i think T1 frigates which are around 7-8 hp / mass

The veterancy is useless on most units beside ACU and T4 anyway. Even a full vetted PD doesnt really live longer than a fresh one.

Everytime you add 3-4k HP to the base building, your opponent need one more strat to snipe it. Maybe look into that rather than nukes ?

Well, I once was very happy with about 10 destroyers with 9000 hp. My enemy first send in a ton of hover stuff, when that didn't work he tried equal numbers of destroyers

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 04 Feb 2015, 00:03

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-03T20:46:15+02:00

noobymcnoobcake wrote:
Seems like the only thing left to do now is code it into a mod so it can be looked at and then has a much higher change of being integrated into a patch. That said i dont know how easy that will be to do as the baste station is not the one getting the kills. It is above my coding ability. Do buildings have a HP % multiplier per vet level or is it quite random?

Knock yourself out.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 03 Feb 2015, 20:46

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-03T19:54:45+02:00

Seems like the only thing left to do now is code it into a mod so it can be looked at and then has a much higher change of being integrated into a patch. That said i dont know how easy that will be to do as the baste station is not the one getting the kills. It is above my coding ability. Do buildings have a HP % multiplier per vet level or is it quite random?

Statistics: Posted by noobymcnoobcake — 03 Feb 2015, 19:54

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-03T14:12:18+02:00

experimental nuke can take out 1,000,000 HP units so a sat capable of taking it would be almost unkillable by any conventionnal means i think

1M HP for 28k mass would be 35 hp / mass
One of the best units in the game regarding hp/mass are T1 factories i think : only 15 hp / mass
For mobile unit i think T1 frigates which are around 7-8 hp / mass

The veterancy is useless on most units beside ACU and T4 anyway. Even a full vetted PD doesnt really live longer than a fresh one.

Everytime you add 3-4k HP to the base building, your opponent need one more strat to snipe it. Maybe look into that rather than nukes ?

Statistics: Posted by Poch — 03 Feb 2015, 14:12

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-03T09:44:33+02:00

Increase the base health by a lot
Every two vets it gains enough health to survive a nuke (0 and 1 star get a nuke and die, 2 and 3 get a nuke and survive, 4 can stop a third nuke and at 5 it can stop a experimental nuke and survive)
No regen

Fair enough?

Statistics: Posted by zeroAPM — 03 Feb 2015, 09:44

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-03T07:00:33+02:00

Just an increase in the hp and repair of the base station would be good.

Need veterancy on smd's too

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 03 Feb 2015, 07:00

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-02T23:03:06+02:00

no veterancy should be the same across the board

Statistics: Posted by Reaper Zwei — 02 Feb 2015, 23:03

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-02T22:52:05+02:00

Maybe it would be worth lowering the lasers recharge timer as the laser gains veteran...
At least this way the laser gains something worthwhile like every other unit in the game.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 02 Feb 2015, 22:52

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-02T20:54:53+02:00

Deering wrote:
Does the base station gain health or only the satellite? Extra health for the building is fine, but if its only the satellite thats getting health its kinda wasted

Right now only the sat.

The base station should gain the veterancy hp yes. The number of hp of the sat itself is irrelevant anyway.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 02 Feb 2015, 20:54

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-02-01T18:09:30+02:00

Deering wrote:
Does the base station gain health or only the satellite? Extra health for the building is fine, but if its only the satellite thats getting health its kinda wasted

Best way to do this. It would be unfair to all other long range units any other way.

Statistics: Posted by noobymcnoobcake — 01 Feb 2015, 18:09

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-01-12T17:11:14+02:00

Does the base station gain health or only the satellite? Extra health for the building is fine, but if its only the satellite thats getting health its kinda wasted

Statistics: Posted by Deering — 12 Jan 2015, 17:11

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-01-12T15:42:26+02:00

its same with another building. vet on nuke, only take more hp... or artilery.. or tml... or anothre long range units that dont need hp.

It can be change where some units with long range recive dmg instead of hp.

bud not sure if it only dont make balance problem. As nuke with 5vet would be 50% stronger, thats ussles again. Or t3 static artilery with 5 vet be 50% stronger, thats ridiculous OP.

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 12 Jan 2015, 15:42

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-01-12T07:57:57+02:00

Why make just this one unit have different veterancy? vet should be the same across the board. That might make it useless on this type of unit but it does make it consistent and honestly what would you give it for vet that it would use?

Statistics: Posted by Reaper Zwei — 12 Jan 2015, 07:57

Re: UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-01-11T23:57:33+02:00

Martin_PL wrote:
When UEF Defence Satellite gets veterancy it only adds 10 life points to flying laser. Its so useless. Totally no reward for veterancy.

Its time to give it something more. Any ideas?

MORE NUKS!!!

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 11 Jan 2015, 23:57

UEF Defence Satellite - useless veterancy

2015-01-11T23:30:46+02:00

When UEF Defence Satellite gets veterancy it only adds 10 life points to flying laser. Its so useless. Totally no reward for veterancy.

Its time to give it something more. Any ideas?

Statistics: Posted by Martin_PL — 11 Jan 2015, 23:30