Zoram wrote:
Now I don't know exactly how trueskill works its magic, so I make assumptions here. I assume that a "global" rating system including both team games and 1v1 could put a different weight on each kind of game.
Similarly, does a player who only plays seton keep his rating increasing, or does TrueSkill considers that actually he is in effect only demonstrating skills on one map and diminishes the extra points he gets after each subsequent victory on the same map ?
I thought that -maybe- with the 1v1 ladder forcing you to play a large array of random selected map, rating there might reflect a bit better the "trueskill" of a player, as victories rely less on training for one map only.
Blodir wrote:But yes, we've seen many examples of players getting high rating from 1v1, but while being fairly good, not playing even close to their immense rating in teamgames. They even admit to it themselves, and it probably makes their teamgame experience much worse.
Now I don't know exactly how trueskill works its magic, so I make assumptions here. I assume that a "global" rating system including both team games and 1v1 could put a different weight on each kind of game.
Similarly, does a player who only plays seton keep his rating increasing, or does TrueSkill considers that actually he is in effect only demonstrating skills on one map and diminishes the extra points he gets after each subsequent victory on the same map ?
I thought that -maybe- with the 1v1 ladder forcing you to play a large array of random selected map, rating there might reflect a bit better the "trueskill" of a player, as victories rely less on training for one map only.
In team games you have to pay attansion to all enemies and all ally, cause no one will ever say that there is TML or snipe or anything, cause due to balancing you most likely "should" be best player in your team, and you can't just sit and ecowhore/defend bettet cause your team may just die then.
Basicly you can't just outplay guy that play against you in 4v4 that will surely not enough to win game. Basicly I kinda agree with blodir...for example I think even after loosing about 100 points I am still overrated
But I also want to say that ladder was good way to get into faf so you can gain some global rating and start join different games that are not super retarded noob only
Edit: Also team games are maps often exteremly different from ladder maps, if you look at any 2.1k rating player they often build more power after hydro instead of making more factories, and can start teaching t2 mex even before they got all their t1
So another example would be Yann ~2100 global rating, he usually just makes only mantis and captures all map to build more mantis, in team game that only work as cheese tactic and "hope he does not have t1pd" tactic
Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 26 Nov 2014, 10:11
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