Forged Alliance Forever Forged Alliance Forever Forums 2014-10-10T17:21:19+02:00 /feed.php?f=42&t=8252 2014-10-10T17:21:19+02:00 2014-10-10T17:21:19+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=83208#p83208 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]>

If I have time I try to create a PyQt Mockup:
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Statistics: Posted by Dragonfire — 10 Oct 2014, 17:21


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2014-09-11T10:43:16+02:00 2014-09-11T10:43:16+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=80440#p80440 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]>
Updating the looks of the client would probably help in keeping new users aboard. Which is quite an essential aspect of FAF. People want stuff to look good and not outdated. However, personally, I didn't start to notice the rough edges of the client until I was using it for a while. At first glance you don't really notice anything wrong.

Statistics: Posted by Col_Walter_Kurtz — 11 Sep 2014, 10:43


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2014-08-03T14:56:41+02:00 2014-08-03T14:56:41+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=78137#p78137 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]>
We don't really need the new connectivity options either.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 03 Aug 2014, 14:56


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2014-08-03T13:56:34+02:00 2014-08-03T13:56:34+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=78132#p78132 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]>
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List of features here: [link]http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qt5-intro.html[/link]

From what I can guess, connectivity, json support and performance improvements would be a potential gain.

Statistics: Posted by spooky9 — 03 Aug 2014, 13:56


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2014-08-03T11:43:21+02:00 2014-08-03T11:43:21+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=78118#p78118 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]>
Ze_PilOt wrote:
spooky9 wrote:ZeP, I have a queston.
What are the chances to migrate to qt 5? I'm asking hypothetically, cause I don't know the exact benefits that could come from this.

Cause I assume that chances to migrate to python 3 are close to none (based on a post in contributors thread)


I'm against updating for the sake of it. At best, it's a waste of time.

What python3 or pyQt5 will do that the current version we are using can't?


I agree, unless there are serious security issues or you actually want to develop something that can't be done with current version there is no reason to update.

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 03 Aug 2014, 11:43


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2014-08-03T11:40:49+02:00 2014-08-03T11:40:49+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=78117#p78117 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]>
spooky9 wrote:
ZeP, I have a queston.
What are the chances to migrate to qt 5? I'm asking hypothetically, cause I don't know the exact benefits that could come from this.

Cause I assume that chances to migrate to python 3 are close to none (based on a post in contributors thread)


I'm against updating for the sake of it. At best, it's a waste of time.

What python3 or pyQt5 will do that the current version we are using can't?

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 03 Aug 2014, 11:40


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2014-08-01T22:59:30+02:00 2014-08-01T22:59:30+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=78016#p78016 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]> Statistics: Posted by Gerfand — 01 Aug 2014, 22:59


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2014-08-01T23:17:27+02:00 2014-08-01T22:50:08+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=78015#p78015 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]> http://dev.twitch.tv/ (all live streams for Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance) - I have no idea if that's what ZeP is using, but looks like this would work.

Statistics: Posted by spooky9 — 01 Aug 2014, 22:50


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2014-08-01T21:52:10+02:00 2014-08-01T21:52:10+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=78014#p78014 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]>

As for live streams - maybe there's a better way. If twitch has a public api that allows to check whether a user is streaming or not there would be better possibilities to indicate that - I'll check.


Isn't that exactly whats happening at the livestream tab? There is an api, i don't know what it allows though.


Consider "livebar" idea from here: viewtopic.php?f=45&t=5525

Better looking and build into the design instead of just put where there was space of course. Point is to display livestreams on tabs people use anyway, with the possibility to close/disable it. Could also fill the space with custom messages (tournement advertisement..), if there are no livestreams or top livereplays

Statistics: Posted by Zock — 01 Aug 2014, 21:52


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2014-08-01T15:51:48+02:00 2014-08-01T15:51:48+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=78002#p78002 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]> What are the chances to migrate to qt 5? I'm asking hypothetically, cause I don't know the exact benefits that could come from this.

Cause I assume that chances to migrate to python 3 are close to none (based on a post in contributors thread)

Statistics: Posted by spooky9 — 01 Aug 2014, 15:51


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2014-08-01T15:45:45+02:00 2014-08-01T15:45:45+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=78001#p78001 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]> As for the technical difficulties of this task - I'm fully aware. This would be a big task and it would surely require code not just theme changes.

SAKO_X wrote:
i disagree about the "select ladder maps" button being moed to a menu: a lot of users dont bother with menus, and if it was a spanner icon in the corner of your ladder tab...

That sound like a good idea, although I'd still prefer it to be removed, I can agree that putting an icon there would help for a lot of users.

SAKO_X wrote:
i think that the vaults tab should be once again split into a maps tab and mods tab. why? most people dont know to go there, and instead ask questions in chat. when people ask how to use your client, there is something wrong with the ui.

Agreed. I wasn't aware of the problem.

SAKO_X wrote:
i personally like that, but i would not show exact rating outside of the player stats window (as it is now)

You have access to the exact rating - it's in the player stats modal window. All of my friends who I play with check it.
Yes, the topic is controversial, and as I wrote, I'd be absolutely fin if it was not shown anywhere but it seems that more people care about it than don't...so this is purely statistical decision.

SAKO_X wrote:
its good to be updated on the news and given how too few people read it already, it needs to be looked at.

I agree - it needs to be looked at, it's the way it's displayed that doesn't sit with me. I forgot to mention this in the post, but the notification balloon was supposed to be opened each time you turn faf on. That way you do get to see the news (actually you're a bit forced to) but at the same time, it's easy to dismiss.
Things like info on latest patches - I think that this is definitely something that should be shoved in the users face, I just don't want to be too direct with the shoving ;)

As for live streams - maybe there's a better way. If twitch has a public api that allows to check whether a user is streaming or not there would be better possibilities to indicate that - I'll check.

As for the 'home page'- feels very web(ish) in a win app. I still think that it's redundant. I personally spend 90% of faf time in the 'find games' tab but usage stats on this subject would be extremely useful.

ZLO:
Think of it as a possible balance patch ;) just for the UI instead of the game...

Statistics: Posted by spooky9 — 01 Aug 2014, 15:45


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2014-07-31T22:07:43+02:00 2014-07-31T22:07:43+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=77966#p77966 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]>

however i like the concept, hope that will make FAF better for newcomers, GL with new design!

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 31 Jul 2014, 22:07


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2014-07-31T21:16:15+02:00 2014-07-31T21:16:15+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=77963#p77963 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]> i think the client could look much better, and i like what i have seen in this post, so il just spill my thought on this subject.

existing tooltips can be customised with a theme alone; adding new ones will require more changes
on the subject of tooltips, each tooltip has to describe what it will do, not just be a title for the button (good example: "click to get maps" rather than "map vault")

i disagree about the "select ladder maps"
button being moed to a menu: a lot of users dont bother with menus, and if it was a spanner icon in the corner of your ladder tab, with an appropriate label (click to customize preferred ladder maps) then it would be much better. also in here it will be an icon and not text in the menu (you said yourself that text < icons) and it will remove clutter fomr the menu (10+ items is clutter, 6 is less)

removing any sort of dialogue/popup box will require changes to the client source, and possibly a lot of work

i think that the vaults tab should be once again split into a maps tab and mods tab. why? most people dont know to go there, and instead ask questions in chat. when people ask how to use your client, there is something wrong with the ui. also removing/ adding tabs requires changes in the source.

rating box: this is a controvversial topic so i would pe prepared to abandon that :P i personally like that, but i would not show exact rating outside of the player stats window (as it is now) and instead or global rating show league place, and change in points, and 1v1 rating. this will put more importance on 1v1 rating and thats a good thing becuase its what is supposed to be competetive, not a balance tool.

news page: i think that removing it and putting it in the faf icon isnt a great idea, but i think that using the faf icon as a source of important notifications (polls, maintenance, planned changes) IS a good idea.
so i think that the whats new page should stay, but be remade to be a proper inforamation section. im currently thinking of a design for it, but the point is, i like the way i can see the server statistics at startup and the livestreams as well. its good to be updated on the news and given how too few people read it already, it needs to be looked at.
i also feel that it can be used as the "home page" for the client, something to anchor back to, which i think is important.
(also regarding livestreams tab, i use that to see whos streaming supcom, having this available ont the client is imporant to me, and i kinda agree about removing the streams page, but this needs to be somehere, i think whats new will be a good place for it. )

hope this helps

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 31 Jul 2014, 21:16


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2014-07-31T20:14:26+02:00 2014-07-31T20:14:26+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=77958#p77958 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]>
pip wrote:
If you don't intend to work on it yourself, I really don't see the point of this thread.

This^

To many people on faf willing to suggest stuff that should be done or they think will be cool if done but hardly any of them willing to work on it themselves.

Statistics: Posted by Reaper Zwei — 31 Jul 2014, 20:14


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2014-07-30T15:03:21+02:00 2014-07-30T15:03:21+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=8252&p=77869#p77869 <![CDATA[Re: faf client UI analysis and redesign]]> Statistics: Posted by spooky9 — 30 Jul 2014, 15:03


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