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Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-18T02:31:03+02:00

i will quote UBERs signature here:

If you want something to happen, do it yourself

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 18 Feb 2013, 02:31

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-18T02:23:40+02:00

Well its either that or we all start using http://bitgoblin.com/fapt/ playertrack like we did back in gpg.net days. I'm tempted to start my own mini database so I can keep track of people I play games with so I can tell if they are a quitter, lagger, or exploiter.

Statistics: Posted by AppleSucks — 18 Feb 2013, 02:23

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-18T00:39:16+02:00

eXivo wrote:
actually yes, once you've played with someone and he slowed the game to -8, you will probably remember him and never play with him again right?

Yes, but this is a different situation. Of course if you play against someone and you have a bad experience, it's reasonable not to want to play with them again.

This is very different from taking the word of a benchmark as gospel, especially given peoples’ tendency to misinterpret numbers (for instance ping values and interpreting trueskill).

Statistics: Posted by Eukanuba — 18 Feb 2013, 00:39

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-16T11:19:49+02:00

Eukanuba wrote:
rootbeer23 wrote:
the consensus among ignorant people was that it would lead to more unfounded discrimination.

Well then lucky for us there are educated people who are able to use telepathy and clairvoyance to remotely gauge whether somebody else's computer is up to the task.

And especially lucky that they will have the wisdom to only kick players whose machines will definitely go below zero speed, and not indiscriminately kick people who are likely to drop to +1.

actually yes, once you've played with someone and he slowed the game to -8, you will probably remember him and never play with him again right?

Statistics: Posted by eXivo — 16 Feb 2013, 11:19

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-13T15:03:48+02:00

rootbeer23 wrote:
the consensus among ignorant people was that it would lead to more unfounded discrimination.

Well then lucky for us there are educated people who are able to use telepathy and clairvoyance to remotely gauge whether somebody else's computer is up to the task.

And especially lucky that they will have the wisdom to only kick players whose machines will definitely go below zero speed, and not indiscriminately kick people who are likely to drop to +1.

Statistics: Posted by Eukanuba — 13 Feb 2013, 15:03

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-13T14:09:39+02:00

i think we already discussed that enouht.

that will never happen

Statistics: Posted by Mr-Smith — 13 Feb 2013, 14:09

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-13T14:04:56+02:00

Eukanuba wrote:
Something similar has been discussed before, and I think the general consensus was that it would lead to more unfounded discrimination. Why not just start your Seton's games with “i5 or better” in the title?

the consensus among ignorant people was that it would lead to more unfounded discrimination.

Statistics: Posted by rootbeer23 — 13 Feb 2013, 14:04

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-13T14:02:29+02:00

Something similar has been discussed before, and I think the general consensus was that it would lead to more unfounded discrimination. Why not just start your Seton's games with “i5 or better” in the title?

Statistics: Posted by Eukanuba — 13 Feb 2013, 14:02

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-10T18:36:34+02:00

Ze_PilOt wrote:
GHz is the only real relevant thing.

It's unlikely that you have a i5 with 2 go of ram. And FA is unable to take more than 4.

Yes here's my take on that also

I'm surprised people have thought of this I was just about to make a duplicate of this topic

This would be an amazing feature to have

Statistics: Posted by tatsu — 10 Feb 2013, 18:36

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-10T16:21:19+02:00

I was talking of the amount of ram. Not the impact of the ram speed.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 10 Feb 2013, 16:21

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2013-02-10T16:13:31+02:00

I'd love to see a build-in benchmark / stresstest!

After benchmarking some configurations (indeed RAM speed makes a difference, see this forum http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1709516) we may be able to post REAL system requirements on the website. I think most people haven't played/won't play this game because the by GPG posted system requirements didn't make sence at all. It's not just the amount of GHz that counts. So those new players find out the game runs as a slideshow and stop playing it.

This benchmark would certainly attract new players, as from that moment they know what to expect.

Statistics: Posted by Dr_Doolittle — 10 Feb 2013, 16:13

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2012-09-15T12:57:53+02:00

it cannot be ONLY GHz.
i have an Intel Core i7 720QM (1,60 GHz) and in the last 10 noob setons games i was NEVER the one slowing the game down, although i was probably the one with the least GHz.

it has to be the number of operations per second 2 cores of a cpu can handle.

i think i have heard that a modern i7 cpu can handle about 30 operations in each cpu cycle. with 3 GHz this makes 90,000,000,000 operations per second for every core. older cpus handle probably less operations per cpu cycle. this would be an explanation why modern cpus can run at higher simspeed with less GHz than older cpus.

Statistics: Posted by eXcalibur — 15 Sep 2012, 12:57

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2012-09-15T04:37:03+02:00

The problem with measuring in only ghz doesn't tell the whole story, unfortunately. I had an old Intel Q6600 2.4 ghz quad core that was overclocked to 3.2 ghz, but my new i7 2600k at stock settings (which is also 3.2 ghz) runs circles around the old Q6600, and even more so now that it's @ 4.8 ghz. So anyway, I think that something that takes into account how many operations per second the CPU can handle would paint a more accurate picture.

The auto-kick with low SIM speed is interesting, but the problem would become who gets their stuff? I would also feel bad for the people that don't hit the auto-kick threshold until 20-30 minutes into a game; especially if they aren't certain where their SIM falls and what maps/settings to avoid.

Statistics: Posted by glintingember — 15 Sep 2012, 04:37

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2012-09-09T21:38:09+02:00

RAM speed actually makes little difference in FA.

IMO, the simplest solution would be to simply take the user's CPU and display it in the lobby somewhere, possibly via hover.

Statistics: Posted by uberge3k — 09 Sep 2012, 21:38

Re: Feature Request - Computer Hardware Rating

2012-09-09T20:15:14+02:00

GHz is the only real relevant thing.

It's unlikely that you have a i5 with 2 go of ram. And FA is unable to take more than 4.

Statistics: Posted by Ze_PilOt — 09 Sep 2012, 20:15