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Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-08T05:44:04+02:00

well... There is nothing bad in going to a higher tech - after all, a better weapon is as good as a bit stronger economy. Besides, people do not go to a higher tech unless they are in a position of a stalemate/power.

However, more expensive T2 screws over UEF and Seraphim, factions that have weaker T1 than cybran or microed (g)aeon because their best counters (Ilshavohs, Pillars and Mongeese) are now not so easily reached.

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Statistics: Posted by Lieutenant Lich — 08 Feb 2017, 05:44

Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-08T04:03:40+02:00

Well that's interesting.
Hopefully next patch will fix the problem. We'll get it right eventually. There's a sweet spot somewhere.

Statistics: Posted by Nepty — 08 Feb 2017, 04:03

Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-07T13:05:01+02:00

Something new would be that you have to own, lets say, 6 Mexes for T2 and 12 or whatever for tech 3.

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 07 Feb 2017, 13:05

Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-03T13:11:41+02:00

the price of t2 land has been incresed heavily a few patches ago (by about 50% in mass and a lt of buildtime too)
since then t2 rush (what do ou consider as a "rush"?) has become a rarity in 1v1 (are you even talking about 1v1, and on what mas since maps obviously affect teching)
greedy tech transition can easily be punished hard.

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Statistics: Posted by Turinturambar — 03 Feb 2017, 13:11

Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-03T07:15:35+02:00

Well i mean unless you want to change the build time a tiny bit it won't mean anything if the other player lets him get away with it

So there is not a huge amount of stuff you can do really

Statistics: Posted by biass — 03 Feb 2017, 07:15

Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-03T07:06:46+02:00

"Shhh, we're at the 5 minute mark. Prepare to upgrade to tech 2..."

Time gates, or teching factories costs the price of a experimental unit. No easy way to solve the situation. It gotta be something extreme or people will tech rush...

Okay, so do nothing is the logical option... Fine.
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Statistics: Posted by Nepty — 03 Feb 2017, 07:06

Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-03T06:20:56+02:00

You're right, i do hate it

Statistics: Posted by biass — 03 Feb 2017, 06:20

Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-03T01:58:52+02:00

Nope, t1 wars favors Cybran (and aeon) too much...

Also I agree people rush to a tech 2 or 3 way too fast. Many factors and no easy way to fix it, but I have an idea people will hate.

Time gated tech levels:

Can't go to tech 2 with anything until after 6 minutes.
Can't go to tech 3 with anything until after 15 minutes of game play.

Crazy idea I thought of. We will have to add a voice saying "tech 2 schematics uploaded" after 6 minutes have gone by. Same with the tech 3 after 15 minutes.

I'm sure this will harm UEF and Aeon a lot. Uef's tech 1 and Aeon's tech 2 is a bit questionable. I would hate to be stuck there.

Statistics: Posted by Nepty — 03 Feb 2017, 01:58

Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-03T00:41:17+02:00

Yay! Lets have even more t1 spam wars!

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 03 Feb 2017, 00:41

Re: Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-02T12:55:05+02:00

prodromos wrote:
The way things are now players are allowed to not expand adequately , yet being able to transition
to higher tech. Not only that , but being able to produce at large amounts.

Only because players do not punish upgrading opponents
I see where you come from, but just making them more expensive has both been done in the past and doesn't seem to do all that much...

Statistics: Posted by biass — 02 Feb 2017, 12:55

Transitioning between tech tiers

2017-02-02T12:43:36+02:00

I propose making transitioning between tech tiers, more dificult , having in mind to reward players with map control.
I can't say if it is a good idea or not , or if it has even be discussed.

It could be experimented with, I suppose.
The way things are now players are allowed to not expand adequately , yet being able to transition
to higher tech. Not only that , but being able to produce at large amounts.

Teching factories and mexes should be more expensive imo.

Statistics: Posted by prodromos — 02 Feb 2017, 12:43