Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-13T02:15:43+02:00

Here it is

https://github.com/FAForever/fa/issues/1355

Finally, it should be on

Statistics: Posted by Phelom — 13 Jun 2016, 02:15

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-11T20:51:00+02:00

Hawkei wrote:
Phelom wrote:hi guys...

I tryed if i can spread build with engies, well .. don't work.. but i got idea :

1. i build 5 factories with 20 engies... what if i spread them ? so i'll have 4 engies building 1 land fact X 5 .. better no ?

2. BUT, a spread assiste i think is a better idea.. i assiste 4 factories with engies.. then i spread them so they'll assiste all factories

So, what do u think ?

You can already get this same functionality with the assist command. Select your 20 engineers, press I (or the assist button) then click on the ground in between the 5 factories. Your engineers will assist whatever factory is building a unit, and will also dynamically assist a different factory as units are rolling off the pad. In this way you can apply your engineer build power to efficiently make ships and land units, without having any down time as the units are rolling off the pad.

Yes i often do that, and oh how i love it, but as i said before.. that's limited by range, and u can't do that if the "Assiste" action is all around the engies outside the build range

But the idea behinde the "Spread assiste" is a way to use "Shift assite" then "spread", with "Shift assiste" i can set lot of things even if they're far away.. then the spread will convert the "Serial tasks" to "Paralel tasks"

Statistics: Posted by Phelom — 11 Jun 2016, 20:51

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-11T12:46:17+02:00

i want this too.
split-wall sounds good.
split-fac wounds good.
*sounds

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 11 Jun 2016, 12:46

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-11T11:20:19+02:00

Phelom wrote:
hi guys...

I tryed if i can spread build with engies, well .. don't work.. but i got idea :

1. i build 5 factories with 20 engies... what if i spread them ? so i'll have 4 engies building 1 land fact X 5 .. better no ?

2. BUT, a spread assiste i think is a better idea.. i assiste 4 factories with engies.. then i spread them so they'll assiste all factories

So, what do u think ?

You can already get this same functionality with the assist command. Select your 20 engineers, press I (or the assist button) then click on the ground in between the 5 factories. Your engineers will assist whatever factory is building a unit, and will also dynamically assist a different factory as units are rolling off the pad. In this way you can apply your engineer build power to efficiently make ships and land units, without having any down time as the units are rolling off the pad.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 11 Jun 2016, 11:20

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-10T21:21:54+02:00

your english is perfectly understandable

I like the idea. Not critical, but would be nice to have.

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 10 Jun 2016, 21:21

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-10T19:25:43+02:00

Sorry for my English ^^

Mot wrote:
you can spread assist sort of in short range with a ground assist.

yeah so usefull, but limited by range.. the idea of the spread assiste we should assume that the eco is fine... i liked the example of the mex upgrades, i also think that with a
good eco, 20 engies assisting 1 by 1 mex to t2 is the same result as 4 engies assisting 5 mexes at once.

ZLO talked about the "travel eficiency" and that is exactly what i would like to have when i "spread build", i want to have pieces of walls here and there which will be joined by time instead of one long wall

Same example is the SAMs.. i dont need lot of engies building one by one from the edge of the map to the other edge, i want to have some SAMs DONE at once between the edges of the map.

OR for example building about 10 navy factories on setons... T1 PDs to defend a big spam...

Yeah will be Cool to have it

Statistics: Posted by Phelom — 10 Jun 2016, 19:25

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-10T12:30:04+02:00

briang wrote:
You want to make an order to do something inefficiently? Why?

in case of spread build it will be walking time efficient, for expamle for making walls (or many many many things that are spread out and not need to be completed as fast as possible, just like sams in phantom game)
Edit: assuming it will work "smart" and not share buildings randomly between engies =\

in case of spread assit... well idk maybe if some one really wants to equally assist many land/navy facs without putting effort of manually spreading engies, usefull but not necessary

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 10 Jun 2016, 12:30

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-10T10:00:02+02:00

you can spread assist sort of in short range with a ground assist.

Statistics: Posted by Mot — 10 Jun 2016, 10:00

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-10T03:12:09+02:00

You want to make an order to do something inefficiently? Why?

Statistics: Posted by briang — 10 Jun 2016, 03:12

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-10T03:12:38+02:00

There is the spread attack order to attack multiple targets at once and we got the spread move order to make units react quicker.

He wants a spread assist/build order to make engis build/assist things simultaneously.

Scenario:
4 mexes, all upgrading from t1 to t2
select 20 engis to assist them during upgrade
hit "spread assist" (shift +g) to get 5 engis assist each mex at the same time

Statistics: Posted by CavemanHost — 10 Jun 2016, 03:09

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-10T01:04:03+02:00

Not completely sure what you're asking here since your english isn't exactly top-notch.

If you need a building fast you want to put as many engineers on it as possible. If you want many buildings fast you can try to place them all in the engineers' build range circle to minimize travel time.

Most of the time this depends on your economy and the building's cost. Something that costs a lot usually gets build one by one (or at least early on like T3 bots for example).

Something that's cheap usually gets build at multiple different places. It gets build faster (because it's cheap) so you don't need a lot of build power for it.

Statistics: Posted by lextoc — 10 Jun 2016, 01:04

Re: Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-09T22:38:52+02:00

MarshalLichKing got a better example

Building 100+ SAMs around islands with 10 T3 engies on a Phantom game

Imagine if he can Spread them ?

Statistics: Posted by Phelom — 09 Jun 2016, 22:38

Spread Build and Spread Assiste

2016-06-09T22:22:32+02:00

hi guys...

I tryed if i can spread build with engies, well .. don't work.. but i got idea :

1. i build 5 factories with 20 engies... what if i spread them ? so i'll have 4 engies building 1 land fact X 5 .. better no ?

2. BUT, a spread assiste i think is a better idea.. i assiste 4 factories with engies.. then i spread them so they'll assiste all factories

So, what do u think ?

Statistics: Posted by Phelom — 09 Jun 2016, 22:22