Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-10-17T22:34:46+02:00

Sorry, we did not found the time for a try and now I think it isn't necessary anymore. We have a slack group (#moderation) with 39 players who can tell us their opinion about our actions. This is nearly the same as a mod liason. So you can be sure that we are in contact with the community.

Thank you,

-Voodoo

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 17 Oct 2016, 22:34

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-28T21:11:38+02:00

Gorton wrote:
I'll add something similar like this tomorrow, but the details need to be hashed out at least roughly first

Is this still on for tomorrow™ ?

Statistics: Posted by Softly — 28 Aug 2016, 21:11

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-02T12:52:18+02:00

No need for what's new.. The right person would have read this thread already

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 02 Aug 2016, 12:52

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-02T10:55:14+02:00

Yes you are right. A post at the What's new page is necessary and we will expand the time.

My thoughts at the start were: We need someone who is active at the forum as we will handle it here and someone who is looking each day at the forum will see this thread. But you are right someone could miss it.

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 02 Aug 2016, 10:55

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-02T01:42:58+02:00

KeyBlue wrote:
I think a post saying these things wouldn't be bad:

Hey we have this idea that will improve your faf experience.
Its going to work like this and this and this.
We're going to test it for this long and consider it a succes if these things happened.
We're looking for the right person(s) to do this. Apply here.(pm or google form to secure anonymity?)
If you have more suggestions/remarks post it in this new forum thread we made.
If you have further questions you can ask these people.

This is some of the information you should give, imo.
Some good communication is key here, I think.

Then when you found the right person at the end of the week, you just post something like this:

Hey you remember that idea we had, here's a summary
We found someone and he is approachable this way.
The trial period will end (give date) and we will evaluate the result.

I'll add something similar like this tomorrow, but the details need to be hashed out at least roughly first

People should be informed they can apply.

ofc yes,
def extend application time a bit to account for this

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 02 Aug 2016, 01:42

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-02T01:16:49+02:00

I think a post saying these things wouldn't be bad:

Hey we have this idea that will improve your faf experience.
Its going to work like this and this and this.
We're going to test it for this long and consider it a succes if these things happened.
We're looking for the right person(s) to do this. Apply here.(pm or google form to secure anonymity?)
If you have more suggestions/remarks post it in this new forum thread we made.
If you have further questions you can ask these people.

This is some of the information you should give, imo.
Some good communication is key here, I think.

Then when you found the right person at the end of the week, you just post something like this:

Hey you remember that idea we had, here's a summary
We found someone and he is approachable this way.
The trial period will end (give date) and we will evaluate the result.

Statistics: Posted by KeyBlue — 02 Aug 2016, 01:16

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-02T00:53:16+02:00

Gorton wrote:
There's not much to say right now. A what's new post can be added once there is more than "We're going to try it" to the idea.

People should be informed they can apply.

Statistics: Posted by JaggedAppliance — 02 Aug 2016, 00:53

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-02T00:29:37+02:00

There's not much to say right now. A what's new post can be added once there is more than "We're going to try it" to the idea.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 02 Aug 2016, 00:29

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-01T23:32:02+02:00

+ 1 for the idea and the action taken.

Softly wrote:
Anonymous is nice, but the person doing the job will need to be approachable, e.g by pm in chat.

This kinda removes anonymity =/

Can't they just use an IRC account (or whats it called) or have a faf account specifically for the mod liaison, called MOD LIASON or something.
So its quite clear how to reach the person and its completely anonymous?

Voodoo wrote:
I think it is worth a try. Players can apply until sunday in this thread or via a private message.

Shouldn't this be in What's New page? This is quite an interesting topic, but the way it is presented, makes it feel like the process is kept hidden from most of the community. I mean there is only this one post of Voodoo saying that the mod team is interested.

Being devil's advocate here: I could say that Voodoo keeps it so hidden, so that the mod team can pick one of their own and they won't have to deal with an annoying "liason". And if someone complained they could point to this thread saying that everyone could apply but nobody else did.

I doubt this is the case, since voodoo necroed the thread himself, but i hope you get my point.

PS: my apologies if making a What's New post was the plan from the start.

Statistics: Posted by KeyBlue — 01 Aug 2016, 23:32

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-01T22:22:27+02:00

The council change could be months away yet, I don't think it is a good reason not to make progress now.

Statistics: Posted by Softly — 01 Aug 2016, 22:22

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-01T21:09:48+02:00

Voodoo wrote:
I think it is worth a try. Players can apply until sunday in this thread or via a private message.

Shouldn't we wait for the new council change with the new defined roles?

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 01 Aug 2016, 21:09

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-01T21:01:44+02:00

Anonymous is nice, but the person doing the job will need to be approachable, e.g by pm in chat.

This kinda removes anonymity =/

Statistics: Posted by Softly — 01 Aug 2016, 21:01

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-01T19:33:38+02:00

Voodoo wrote:
I think it is worth a try. Players can apply until sunday in this thread or via a private message.

I think this is a good & needed idea for FAF.

As an ethics specialist I would like to offer a recommendation :

Keep whoever is nominated as an anonymous figure. No one should know who the person is (other than the obvious admins).
This removes the possibility of likes or dislikes of the person wearing the hat influencing the willingness of a player to approach a discussion of some grievance they might have. It also allows the mediator to adjudicate objectively without fear of reprisal.

I have encountered many people on FAF over the years who have had issues and feel strongly that there is no one for them to approach.

The anonymity may not be sexy for the person doing the job but it is an effective way to ensure the position remains uncluttered by emotion.

IMnsHO.

Statistics: Posted by HotFog — 01 Aug 2016, 19:33

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-08-01T19:00:06+02:00

I think it is worth a try. Players can apply until sunday in this thread or via a private message.

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 01 Aug 2016, 19:00

Re: Proposal: Mod Liason

2016-03-02T01:02:56+02:00

I thought it would best be a separate job to Player Councillor since the role would change hands more often.

Additionally I'm hoping the player councillor role grows into something a bit more, and I don't want them to end up having to do too much stuff.

I'm also not convinced that veto power is a good idea since I'm sure the mods already know what they're doing. The whole point would be to provide extra support to the mod team in communicating to others, as well as an extra point of contact for those wanting to discuss moderator actions.

Statistics: Posted by Softly — 02 Mar 2016, 01:02