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Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2016-01-10T16:49:04+02:00

Aulex wrote:
mirroredwang wrote:
Myxir wrote:as an extreme example, playing roanoke 1v1. it's quite famous to use a transport, drop engies on the four small islands next to the map edge near the other player's starting island, and capture those mexies. i can assure you, it's already super hard to notice that one, even less vision would be horrible here

Yeah but thats my point, encouraging more scouting

Scouting ftw

I feel like this would just encourage radars everywhere and total awareness, which is good, but not that realistic and may just make the gameplay more frustrating for lower rated players

Maybe I'm not as good as I should be, but I'm ~1350 both ladder and global and I still have trouble even on medium sized maps like Loki keeping track of everything... put radar and sonar everywhere, scout often, play zoomed out, still miss stuff. Roanoke is hell. I don't know that this would be unwelcome, but I don't know that it would be welcome, either.

Statistics: Posted by codepants — 10 Jan 2016, 16:49

Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2016-01-06T23:56:26+02:00

T2 mex also has omni sensor gg no re

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 06 Jan 2016, 23:56

Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2015-12-30T20:56:53+02:00

I see some positives, but they don't put way the negatives here. Also if it was like this when I was a 600 there would have been a lot of keyboard smashing and rage quitting.

Statistics: Posted by yeager — 30 Dec 2015, 20:56

Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2015-12-30T19:16:14+02:00

No thanks. I don't see how this improves gameplay at all.

Statistics: Posted by briang — 30 Dec 2015, 19:16

Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2015-12-30T18:45:22+02:00

much like walls have no vision either, but you can still easily discern whats firing at it

Statistics: Posted by mirroredwang — 30 Dec 2015, 18:45

Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2015-12-29T01:22:46+02:00

mirroredwang wrote:
Myxir wrote:as an extreme example, playing roanoke 1v1. it's quite famous to use a transport, drop engies on the four small islands next to the map edge near the other player's starting island, and capture those mexies. i can assure you, it's already super hard to notice that one, even less vision would be horrible here

Yeah but thats my point, encouraging more scouting

Scouting ftw

I feel like this would just encourage radars everywhere and total awareness, which is good, but not that realistic and may just make the gameplay more frustrating for lower rated players

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 29 Dec 2015, 01:22

Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2015-12-28T23:16:55+02:00

Myxir wrote:
as an extreme example, playing roanoke 1v1. it's quite famous to use a transport, drop engies on the four small islands next to the map edge near the other player's starting island, and capture those mexies. i can assure you, it's already super hard to notice that one, even less vision would be horrible here

Yeah but thats my point, encouraging more scouting

Scouting ftw

Statistics: Posted by mirroredwang — 28 Dec 2015, 23:16

Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2015-12-28T22:48:00+02:00

as an extreme example, playing roanoke 1v1. it's quite famous to use a transport, drop engies on the four small islands next to the map edge near the other player's starting island, and capture those mexies. i can assure you, it's already super hard to notice that one, even less vision would be horrible here

Statistics: Posted by Myxir — 28 Dec 2015, 22:48

Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2015-12-28T22:44:29+02:00

Dunno how to design it (hah) but the point is that you always hear your stuff being shot (maybe display projectiles to know exactly what hits the mex, thats what i mean with "minimal" vision)

you dont notice as easily your stuff getting captured/reclaimed by engineers. also better runbys of units (landscouts more important, even to beginning midgame) and you can play around with a hold fire acu

Statistics: Posted by mirroredwang — 28 Dec 2015, 22:44

Re: What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2015-12-28T22:37:55+02:00

Sounds interesting, but it might be frustrating if your buildings die and you don't notice it?

Statistics: Posted by Zock — 28 Dec 2015, 22:37

What if (Eco) buildings had no/minimal vision?

2015-12-28T19:45:23+02:00

Sure, you could still tell by sound and sight what projectiles units are firing at your mexes, but you can finally conquer silently mexes and hydros like a real human bean. People thought about t2/t3 mex hp, i think its not the only stat that can be tinkered with.

Inspiration comes of course from Age of Empires, where buildings have no real vision too, unless you build t1 "watchtowers"

Statistics: Posted by mirroredwang — 28 Dec 2015, 19:45