hold on tight! its time to argue about something irrelevant and requires you to be really picky and rely on technicalities, missing the general point!

the flaw in briangs argument is that its kinda assuming that every other change you dont want except the one that's mentioned. or rather, that every single change corresponds to a reason to play or not.

it goes a bit like this - surely if there are so many changes then there's 0 point in giving one reason to play it vs 9999 potential reasons not to

if that were the case then i would agree.

but in reality the changes can be split into 3 categories: changes you like , changes you dont like, changes you're unsure about (either cos you dont know about them or you dont care or they dont make a difference to you or they are small, ect ect)

the changes you're unsure about can be discounted because they arent a reason to (not) play the mod.
also there are reasons that dont really depend on the mod itself: its unranked, its "different". these are present for most mods so they will be accounted for only at the very end.

judging by peoples reviews of the mod, the changes that people dont like are fewer than changes that people like. each single person found at most 3 different things they didn't like (usually 0 or 1, a couple of people had 2)
some people didn't notice any changes (at least 8 by now)
some people didn't notice they had played a game with the mod on (at least 3 people xDD)
(bonus) a couple of people thought they were playing with the mod when it was disabled!
mostly single favorable changes were not mentioned (only a couple of people) instead there were often statements like "overall i like it"

also, currently all except one complaint about the mod (legit ones that we could keep track of), were addressed in some way or another (i.e. sth was changed in the mod).

so based on this evidence (gathered from interviews with people after games)

i would say that there are more favorable changes that unfavorable, and there are even more changes that dont fall into either category.

hence, giving even 1 reason to play this mod vs a potential (currently there are 4 possible improvements in work and 1(!) complaints unsolved) few reasons not to is completely reasonable.

have a nice day.

but seriously you are getting pissy over a technicality?

well then lets begin our adventure:

so ithilis logic is a bit like this:
you like X
Y contains X
this is a reason to like Y

seems pretty simple to me.


what youre saying kinda like this - "yeah but it also contains Z which you didnt mention and thats a reason not to like Y!"

while that might be technically true, it doesnt stop the original ithilis logic from being fine. hes basically saying this is a reason to play his mod. and hes been posting these quite a few times now, so i guess that means there are many reasons to play his mod?

i also like how you attack his logic but not the actual mod, if you find something at fault in there then do tell, since i dont think ive heard any specific things yet

in any case i would rather read 0 salt posts on the balance forum than 20, have a nice day