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Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T22:18:37+02:00

keyser wrote:
it's a shame we do off topics on this topic, it's a good one :/
can't we just pollute briang or ithilis balance discution/mod, these are useless anyways.

I have nothing to do with this... i was constructive and concrete.. complain about briang stupidity who start pising my for no reason...

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 02 Jul 2015, 22:18

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T22:15:47+02:00

ZLO_RD wrote:
Ok, lets assume that everyone uses templates of 5 storages or 4 storage + mass extractor.
Worst scenario in that case would be:
1) select engineer
2) move mouse to the menu at the bottom of screen
3) click on template section (it is a small button)
4) click on your storage template
5) move mouse to mass extractor ( if you forget to hold shift as i alwais do, you will have to move mose to menu again, click template and then move to mex again)
6) click on mex
Better scenario, assuming that storage is your 1rst template :
1) select engineer
2) click on your temlate hotkey, while moveing your mouse to your mass extractor
3) click on mex
If you forget to hold shift, you can just click template hotkey again.

Note: all that stuff with forgetting shift is just an assumption that you want to queue storages around multiple mexes.

So the hard part without useing hotbuild is to select/choose a template.
Also when i play i want to save mouse movement time and do everything fast with my mouse, and that causes missclicks for me.
So if you want to queue storages around many mass extractors manual way of choosing templates is not so bad.
But that would mean that you put your attansion for this task for pretty long time and if you will have to interrupt your actions in order to micro something else, you will have to go trought all that selecting template part again.
Also use of hotkey allows for easyer use of multiple groups of engineers to build storages - that saves movement time of engineers...

Well, that is just from my experience.
This hotkey is extremely usefull if yoy want to eco efficiently.

keyser wrote:
yes i use the hotkey too, but i need to zoom in really closely and take my time to put the storage at the good spot.

if it was something like mexx (not ground marker, but something that make easier to put on right spot), i would be able to do it un-zoom / less zoomed in.
= less time taken, and more map awareness

Well, i'd say then just what would be a hotkey/quickkey for mass points would be the interest, yes??

Given hotkey, buildkey, template key, are in, yes?

If I had read correctly, anyways..(for the assumption though)..sorry..

Thx..

Statistics: Posted by =M.V.K.= — 02 Jul 2015, 22:15

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T22:01:25+02:00

yes i use the hotkey too, but i need to zoom in really closely and take my time to put the storage at the good spot.

if it was something like mexx (not ground marker, but something that make easier to put on right spot), i would be able to do it un-zoom / less zoomed in.
= less time taken, and more map awareness

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 02 Jul 2015, 22:01

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T21:50:33+02:00

Ok, lets assume that everyone uses templates of 5 storages or 4 storage + mass extractor.
Worst scenario in that case would be:
1) select engineer
2) move mouse to the menu at the bottom of screen
3) click on template section (it is a small button)
4) click on your storage template
5) move mouse to mass extractor ( if you forget to hold shift as i alwais do, you will have to move mose to menu again, click template and then move to mex again)
6) click on mex
Better scenario, assuming that storage is your 1rst template :
1) select engineer
2) click on your temlate hotkey, while moveing your mouse to your mass extractor
3) click on mex
If you forget to hold shift, you can just click template hotkey again.

Note: all that stuff with forgetting shift is just an assumption that you want to queue storages around multiple mexes.

So the hard part without useing hotbuild is to select/choose a template.
Also when i play i want to save mouse movement time and do everything fast with my mouse, and that causes missclicks for me.
So if you want to queue storages around many mass extractors manual way of choosing templates is not so bad.
But that would mean that you put your attansion for this task for pretty long time and if you will have to interrupt your actions in order to micro something else, you will have to go trought all that selecting template part again.
Also use of hotkey allows for easyer use of multiple groups of engineers to build storages - that saves movement time of engineers...

Well, that is just from my experience.
This hotkey is extremely usefull if yoy want to eco efficiently.

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 02 Jul 2015, 21:50

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T21:19:14+02:00

it's a shame we do off topics on this topic, it's a good one :/
can't we just pollute briang or ithilis balance discution/mod, these are useless anyways.

and yeah i agree this guy is raping my head pretty hard, maybe it's ithilis english teacher

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 02 Jul 2015, 21:19

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T21:14:11+02:00

since this is off topic thread anyway :

There's great function of forum to show new posts that I use to keep track on things, to read all the intresting posts. But unfortunatelly this got polluted by someone who I'm not gonna name, that posts long posts that impossible to read.

When I was reading Ithilis' posts I thought it cant be worse, but I was so wrong...
This is just... the words can not express...

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 02 Jul 2015, 21:14

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T16:21:14+02:00

miss clicks depend on UI lag, but I think we're getting somewhere else again

Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 02 Jul 2015, 16:21

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T16:11:11+02:00

I use hotbuild template hotkey with 5 storage recently, and it is just incredibly awesome, almost like installing hotbuild again.
That is what actually allows me to eco more, and more often. Before that i was to lazy to build storages with just 5 storahe template without hotkey.
Also i do not remember many missclicks.

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 02 Jul 2015, 16:11

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T10:56:45+02:00

There is a Mediterranean place in town that does some really nice salmon, rocket and capers pizza...

aaaaaand back on topic.

Statistics: Posted by Nombringer — 02 Jul 2015, 10:56

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T10:08:38+02:00

briang wrote:
I don't think speed would claim that he has very good air micro... Your tests would hold some gravity if you got SC-Account or Gala... but you'd get a different result because they'd never lose to unmicrod asf... I wouldn't even lose to unmicroed asf.

Why not test it and show the outcome. That is way more interesting than some forum argument. And I know you are interested in the technical 'truth' so to speak. I would test with you but with the weather chances are close to 0 that I will be online. But you will find someone for this simple test easily enough.

Statistics: Posted by Col_Walter_Kurtz — 02 Jul 2015, 10:08

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T01:37:56+02:00

Well, congratulations to Briang and Ithilis for getting the reward for most off-topic discussion... Regarding the subject, it looks like FAF doesn't have anyone who is able to make a change like this :/

Statistics: Posted by TheRedViper — 02 Jul 2015, 01:37

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-02T00:09:16+02:00

someone ordered me? im not from hawaii tho...

Statistics: Posted by pza — 02 Jul 2015, 00:09

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-01T23:07:37+02:00

Actually i should go order one straight away, maybe hawaii.... bit mainstream but tastyyyy

Statistics: Posted by Tokyto — 01 Jul 2015, 23:07

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-01T21:34:40+02:00

Just ate one with miced meat, onions, bacon and mozarella. Delicious

Statistics: Posted by Mephi — 01 Jul 2015, 21:34

Re: Mass capping effectiveness

2015-07-01T20:07:42+02:00

Tokyto wrote:
Since the topic is changing a bit, do you guys like pizza?

Already eating one! mozzarela with salami, best one, with is your most famous?

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 01 Jul 2015, 20:07