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Re: Mass Extractor rebuild fix

2014-02-26T21:21:16+02:00

This thread was created before the fix was put in, but strangely people are only talking about it AFTER it was already fixed xD

Statistics: Posted by RK4000 — 26 Feb 2014, 21:21

Re: Mass Extractor rebuild fix

2014-02-26T20:35:15+02:00

this is already done, no need for this thread at all anymore... :/

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 26 Feb 2014, 20:35

Re: Mass Extractor rebuild fix

2014-02-26T17:32:06+02:00

Aulex wrote:
it's obnoxious tbh, it adds superficial complexity to the game.

Then it is a simple blueprint fix. Adjust the rebuild bonus category to only include mexes of the current tech level.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 26 Feb 2014, 17:32

Re: Mass Extractor rebuild fix

2014-02-26T07:16:42+02:00

it's obnoxious tbh, it adds superficial complexity to the game.

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 26 Feb 2014, 07:16

Re: Mass Extractor rebuild fix

2014-02-26T02:01:15+02:00

This has always been a function of the game. The player needs to be mindful that they need to reclaim the mex before rebuilding a lower tech. Rebuilding T1 on a T2/3 wreck is a rookie error.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 26 Feb 2014, 02:01

Re: Mass Extractor rebuild fix

2014-02-25T19:28:41+02:00

Awesome! Personally I like having the rebuild on. That way it gives the option if you want it. Plus, it would be more intuitive. Most players joining will expect it to rebuild. You always have the option of just reclaiming before you build if you are so inclined.

Statistics: Posted by rockoe10 — 25 Feb 2014, 19:28

Re: Mass Extractor rebuild fix

2014-02-23T00:13:10+02:00

I've never experienced this, but since the mex would now only be rebuilt either of the same tier as the wreck, or reclaimed alltogether (depending on what the community thinks is better), I think that problem probably got fixed aswell.

Statistics: Posted by RK4000 — 23 Feb 2014, 00:13

Re: Mass Extractor rebuild fix

2014-02-22T23:34:34+02:00

I'm more interested that building T1 on T2/T3 makes the wreck vanish with no return and cancels the build order. You fix this?

Statistics: Posted by IceDreamer — 22 Feb 2014, 23:34

Mass Extractor rebuild fix

2014-02-22T21:06:53+02:00

Ok, so, as most of you have probably figured out, mexes have an uncanny ability to deprive you of a lot of mass when you rebuild them.

This is due to the fact that, when you build, say, a T1 mex ontop of a T3 mex wreck, the T1 mex gets the "50% build bonus", like you get when you build a building over a wreck of the same building.

This is a problem because you never get the mass reclaim from the T3 wreck, and all you get is half a T1 mex in return. Not cool, wastes a LOT of mass.

There are now two ways to avoid this:
Remove the rebuild bonus for mexes not of the same tech. This means that, if you rebuild a T1 mex ontop of a T2 or T3 mex wreck, you do not get the rebuild bonus, instead, the builder will reclaim the T2/T3 mex wreck, and then start building a T1.

However, if you build a T3 mex ontop of a T3 mex wreck, you will still get the 50% build bonus. This is the first variant of the fix.

The problem here is that most people generally want to reclaim the mex wreck first, in order to get most of the mass back (a T3 mex is worth quite a lot of mass).

For this purpose, I'm also uploading a variant of the fix that disables the rebuild bonus entirely (if you rebuild a T3 mex ontop of a T3 mex wreck, the builder will reclaim the T3 mex wreck first and then start building a T3 mex from scratch)

Both of the fixes are in the attatchments, now it's up to the people to see which they find to be more intuitive/useful/etc.

Statistics: Posted by RK4000 — 22 Feb 2014, 21:06