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Re: Is there such a mod? (mass & power income same for every

2015-11-23T15:08:23+02:00

BRNKoINSANITY wrote:
Eco is like 65% of SupCom..... if you want to play with no eco then just enable the "Resources don't matter" option.

NOBODY ASKED YOU

Statistics: Posted by KD7BCH — 23 Nov 2015, 15:08

Re: Is there such a mod? DONE: SLOWPACE

2015-11-21T20:42:45+02:00

this is, as a sidenote, and as a reminder for myself, not the mod i aimed to make.

my goal would be increasing mass income over time to simulate and early axpansion to, lets say, 4 mexes in the beginning, two to five in the minute about 5, then simulate via increasing the income again the upgraded mexes, and then later the (virtual) upgrade to the third mex tech.

this would make the player independent from the mass points, that also would give 1 point instead of 2, and would also help to build bases that are in itself independent.
of course this is not the concept the game aims at and this way the need to expansion is taken away, but this way the player can get a hand free for other things.
also, if still in need of mass or energy, this can and has to be built, but there where the players wants it to be.

because i have not the time to find out how to increase mass income while time progresses, this cheap mod that is my first attempt to hamper with blueprints is a workaround.

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 21 Nov 2015, 20:42

Re: Is there such a mod? DONE: SLOWPACE

2015-11-21T01:33:29+02:00

I have to say right from the start that the pace is not slow at the beginning.. but quick and dirty.
sure thing is an early bomber will be now an early army that attacks or early 10 bombers....
but then the pace degrades and the need of mass kicks in.
i just tested it a couple of times against the AI.
works good for "beginners" like me.

i have to admit, i am not a beginner, but i like it to play it this way.

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 21 Nov 2015, 01:33

Re: Is there such a mod? (mass & power income same for every

2015-11-20T22:32:53+02:00

Thank you all for your input.
The mod is called
Slowpace
slowpace.png

I just did some testing and came to a simple mod that i am testing right now.
I upload it now and look if this is really working (with the upload).
I do not know how to change the income of the ACU over time, because i can not change this via the blueprints.

all i did in code i will post below into the code section.
what the mod does:
the ACU has 8 mass income and a raised energy and mass storage.
the game begins with full storages.
the mexes income is 50%.
all other mas generators are the same as usual.
this will make it more appalling to build up bases with mass and energy facilities.
map expansion is not that interesting anymore but will give for sure enough advantage..
also, the RAS system stacks on top of that what the ACU already generates, making this a even a more powerful upgrade than it already is.

please tell me what you think of it. and keep in mind that this mod will change slowly in time

Code:: name = "slowPace" version = 1 copyright = "no" icon = "/mods/slowpace/def.png" description = "Mass from Mexes is halfed, ACU generates 8 mass from the start and has a greater E&M storage" author = "rxnnxs" url = "http://forums.faforever.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=10999&p=114458#p114458" uid = "7CC33EE4-80D5-11E5-9B89-D6771D5D46B0" exclusive = false ui_only = false

and

Code:: -- Blueprints.lua (hooked) -- -- Author : Ivan Rumsey -- Description : edited by rxnnxs for better pace in game (hopefully) -- -- Copyright © 2007 Gas Powered Games - All rights reserved do local overridden = ModBlueprints function ModBlueprints(blueprints) overridden(blueprints) for id,bp in blueprints.Unit do if bp.Description and table.find(bp.Categories, 'COMMAND') then bp.Economy.ProductionPerSecondMass = 8 --bp.Economy.ProductionPerSecondEnergy = 200*bp.Economy.ProductionPerSecondEnergy bp.Economy.StorageMass = 1200 bp.Economy.StorageEnergy = 10000 end if bp.Description and table.find(bp.Categories, 'MASSEXTRACTION') then bp.Economy.ProductionPerSecondMass = 0.5*bp.Economy.ProductionPerSecondMass end end end end

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 20 Nov 2015, 22:32

Re: Is there such a mod? (mass & power income same for every

2015-11-20T00:46:35+02:00

if thats what i think it is then you might want to consider that the game ends not being how you think. before playing it
it gives you unlimited eco, not a steady income
so you end up spamming buildpower a shitton then rushing stuff. quikly descends into asf/ exp spam, and start with 200 t1 factories all building engies

Statistics: Posted by Exotic_Retard — 20 Nov 2015, 00:46

Re: Is there such a mod? (mass & power income same for every

2015-11-20T00:18:24+02:00

Eco is like 65% of SupCom..... if you want to play with no eco then just enable the "Resources don't matter" option.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 20 Nov 2015, 00:18

Re: Is there such a mod? (mass & power income same for every

2015-11-19T23:36:56+02:00

You may also want to take a look at the build in mod retirement. This keeps a constant income for all players no matter how many mexes or power generators built. From there you will add a scalar factor based on time or at set time intervals increase the economy.

Statistics: Posted by The Mak — 19 Nov 2015, 23:36

Re: Is there such a mod? (mass & power income same for every

2015-11-19T16:01:00+02:00

U make a file with just the changes you want and set something like merge = true.

Then consult the '2x resources' mod to see how it globally changes income. You will do something similar but your scale factor will adjust according to game time.

Sounds like you might also want to remove pgens, mexes, fans, ras and scus (which come with small mass income) and only have the acu income.

Its all doable... Its just a matter of finding precedents that do something similar

On phone .. Don't have exact info

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 19 Nov 2015, 16:01

Re: Is there such a mod? (mass & power income same for every

2015-11-17T23:19:58+02:00

in short:
please, can anyone tell me how i change the rate of power and energy production of the ACUs?

long version:
i've looked into some mods and it is really easy, when to know what to do
so the mini mod "nothing but time" does som echanges to the mass and energy income.
i just want to put this for mexes and pgens to a tiny rate and make a steady but with time increasing income of mass and energy.

i just have to know how to access the blueprints and how to do a destructive hooking of just the one function.
maybe it is even easier than that and i have to just change the stats of the ACUs.
the other mini mod, delivered by GPG, i would only change in the opposite direction.
can someone give me a hint how to change the BP in a mod?
i guess it is in Supreme Commander Forged Alliance\gamedata\units\units\UEL0001 <-- and the three other ACU BPs.
but how do i change just those lines and overload them with the mod-data?

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 17 Nov 2015, 23:19

Is there such a mod? DONE: SLOWPACE

2015-11-20T22:35:57+02:00

A mod that is giving all players the same income, raising that by a rate that is the same as it would be if the expansion and upgrading would take place at a normal pace?

i think this would be a good thing for beginners to begin with so they can concentrate on building everything non eco.

it would also be very nice to compare strategies against each other by having the same conditions in the term of mass and power income.

i have done some search but i never stumbled about such a mod.
it would be nice if such a thing exists.

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 22 Oct 2015, 22:48