Forged Alliance Forever

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T20:16:21+02:00

I think it is time to put a lid on this jar, again.

Issues raised in this thread and the previous one have been noted. A set of guidelines are under work now.

The guidelines will be reviewed by the council and will be viewable by the public for any additional opinions.
Once the guidelines are agreed upon, continued vault work will follow them. The maps that got hidden so far will be reviewed according to the established guidelines.

So perhaps wait for the initial public draft and voice your opinions then in a more constructive fashion.

Statistics: Posted by Viba — 16 May 2018, 20:16

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T20:14:40+02:00

Blue_Owl wrote:
QuestionMarkNoob wrote:
duel gap player wrote:he said he wants to keep newest version? why would he delete the one everyone plays on...

but I know it is adaptive and at least he understand duel gap more than others here. There are so many useless old and bad duel gap maps. look at some of their post history they dont even care about gap they just here to complain not to fix gap

The fact that BlueOwl did not even read the map description is concerning.

Check your shit before writing something.

This it's script file:

local ScenarioFramework = import('/lua/ScenarioFramework.lua')
local ScenarioUtils = import('/lua/sim/ScenarioUtilities.lua')

function OnPopulate()
ScenarioUtils.InitializeArmies()
ScenarioFramework.SetPlayableArea('AREA_1' , false)
end

function OnStart(self)
end

Not so adaptive, huh? Use your brains before writing please.

Duel gap being adaptive doesn't make your argument any more right and culling the vault based on 'moraxs shitlist' IS LITERALLY the most retarded idea posed to humanity

Statistics: Posted by Dro — 16 May 2018, 20:14

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T20:13:52+02:00

Dro wrote:
If they were looking to remove maps for visibility maybe a filter would help.

It is not possible to edit current vault since its a crap mix of python and php and noone besides Zep knows how it works.

Statistics: Posted by Blue_Owl — 16 May 2018, 20:13

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T20:12:06+02:00

QuestionMarkNoob wrote:
duel gap player wrote:he said he wants to keep newest version? why would he delete the one everyone plays on...

but I know it is adaptive and at least he understand duel gap more than others here. There are so many useless old and bad duel gap maps. look at some of their post history they dont even care about gap they just here to complain not to fix gap

The fact that BlueOwl did not even read the map description is concerning.

Check your shit before writing something.

This it's script file:

local ScenarioFramework = import('/lua/ScenarioFramework.lua')
local ScenarioUtils = import('/lua/sim/ScenarioUtilities.lua')

function OnPopulate()
ScenarioUtils.InitializeArmies()
ScenarioFramework.SetPlayableArea('AREA_1' , false)
end

function OnStart(self)
end

Not so adaptive, huh? Use your brains before writing please.

Statistics: Posted by Blue_Owl — 16 May 2018, 20:12

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T20:11:14+02:00

If they were looking to remove maps for visibility maybe a filter would help. One being used for original maps (or orginal bug fixed maps) and one for all versions of the map (additional players and adaptive ect) . This would mean you could still search for a map after finding it in the vault, the original map maker gets credit still(SINCE THEY DID ALL THE FUCKING WORK) and the other versions are still able to be viewed and downloaded.

Making a map 4v4 or 8v8 from an original 1v1 or 2v2 map doesnt change the design of the map and requires little work compared to making a full map also no map really has been improved by upping the numbers of players on it the map if it was originally designed with a specified number of players on the map that's what it was designed around and clearly if someone made a map that is decent they would put thought into such thing as mex placement and spawn locations. The only acceptable silencing of a map should be if terrain is bugged and subsequently fixed or if some startup bug prevents the map from loading and even then due credit should still be given to the original author since again what you did was improve upon a someone else's body of work.

TLDR; ONLY EVER REPLACE MAPS THAT ARE BUGGED AND THEN ONLY CHANGE THE ORIGINAL MAP TO THE NEW ORIGINAL BUG FIXED MAP (maybe the author should
be contacted on this one still though)

IMPLEMENT FILTER IF YOU WANT TO CLEANUP THE VAULT AND GET MORE MAP VARIETY SO THAT ONLY 1 VERSION OF A MAP WILL SHOW ON THE VAULT
THE OTHER SETTING WILL BE DISPLAYING THE FULL AIDS THAT IS THE MAP VAULT

Statistics: Posted by Dro — 16 May 2018, 20:11

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T20:03:23+02:00

The choice of who plays the map is the person who hosts it, if you complain about a map then go and host your own. People should be allowed to play whatever map they want and it shouldn't be down to the team to flag maps because they aren't adaptive

Statistics: Posted by F-odin — 16 May 2018, 20:03

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T20:00:20+02:00

duel gap player wrote:
he said he wants to keep newest version? why would he delete the one everyone plays on...

but I know it is adaptive and at least he understand duel gap more than others here. There are so many useless old and bad duel gap maps. look at some of their post history they dont even care about gap they just here to complain not to fix gap

The fact that BlueOwl did not even read the map description is concerning.

Statistics: Posted by ____ — 16 May 2018, 20:00

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T19:59:02+02:00

just save it and reupload if the best dual gap map is going to get deleted but I doubt it's just people here talking nonsense

Statistics: Posted by duel gap player — 16 May 2018, 19:59

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T19:57:48+02:00

he said he wants to keep newest version? why would he delete the one everyone plays on...

but I know it is adaptive and at least he understand duel gap more than others here. There are so many useless old and bad duel gap maps. look at some of their post history they dont even care about gap they just here to complain not to fix gap

Statistics: Posted by duel gap player — 16 May 2018, 19:57

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T19:57:42+02:00

FtXCommando wrote:
Exotic_Retard said to make a list of the maps that were hidden and they would get them back.

well yea, but since this is supposed to be an (open) community thing, it would be nice to have open access to that info in the first place

Statistics: Posted by Myxir — 16 May 2018, 19:57

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T19:55:31+02:00

Blue Owl said: "Actually its not. And its not really adaptive and we should have hide it, if we could."

It is adaptive (only the spawns though).

He seriously wanted to delete the newest version.

Statistics: Posted by ____ — 16 May 2018, 19:55

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T19:53:57+02:00

FtXCommando wrote:
Exotic_Retard said to make a list of the maps that were hidden and they would get them back.

Like anyone just knows how many fucking maps they've touched tho

Statistics: Posted by Dro — 16 May 2018, 19:53

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T19:53:17+02:00

Exotic_Retard said to make a list of the maps that were hidden and they would get them back.

Statistics: Posted by FtXCommando — 16 May 2018, 19:53

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T19:52:58+02:00

i vote to start a lynch mob pronto ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ ψ

Statistics: Posted by Dro — 16 May 2018, 19:52

Re: map containment thread

2018-05-16T19:52:55+02:00

Anyway can we get all the maps back, and then get them removed after proper rules have been set? 'Cuz I don't trust these people at all after what have they done and said on forum,aeolus,discord.

Statistics: Posted by Endranii — 16 May 2018, 19:52