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Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-14T01:51:01+02:00

keyser's kind of right, and I say this as a 1300/1400 on both ladders, I just had a game exactly like that where I just made every mistake possible and would have lost any team/co-op game for my side. Other days I can beat 2000 rated players so that's the issue that stops top tier players playing these tournaments - you never know when someone's going to completely let you down. Some people don't mind that (better attitude) but if you add the possibility of having to deal with that and a 1200 suiciding on you, people like keyser won't play.

As Vee and I have said this tournament viewtopic.php?f=26&t=8478 was really successful and I was really bummed I couldn't play.

A shared armies tournament would also be awesome.

Statistics: Posted by Sir Prize — 14 Feb 2015, 01:51

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-14T00:11:01+02:00

You learn way more by hearing advice via skype than playing side by side. Your tourney idea is great too though, so definitely go for it.

Statistics: Posted by Vee — 14 Feb 2015, 00:11

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-13T22:51:05+02:00

Sir Prize wrote:
I think shared army with a """"noob"""" player will only increase (x1000) better player rage. => Cancelling order, fucking up eco (launching tons of mexx to T2), bad micro; cancelling order is really the worst thing

I think you're underestimating the skill level of joes.
This wouldn't be a noob + pro tourney, it would be a Joe + pro tourney.
Personally I know some people rated closer to 1000 that can play pretty damn well. (obviously not pro level but ya know)

As for a coop tourney, Ill put one together in a week or two

Vee wrote:
It would be nice to have another tourney where a joe and pro are in skype while the joes are playing the game vs each other. We had such a tourney and it was successful. Then you avoid the problem of giving all eco to the pro etc.

One goal of this tourney is to let pros teach joes how to play, side by side, allowing to people to play. Second, if a pro picks a joe thats not great, itll be a real test of ability for the pro to win.

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 13 Feb 2015, 22:51

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-13T14:49:00+02:00

It would be nice to have another tourney where a joe and pro are in skype while the joes are playing the game vs each other. We had such a tourney and it was successful. Then you avoid the problem of giving all eco to the pro etc.

Statistics: Posted by Vee — 13 Feb 2015, 14:49

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-13T14:08:50+02:00

Sir Prize wrote:
A lot of top tier players, particularly the team game players, don't like playing with noobs anyway due to how often they can lose a game when they've outplayed their opponent (silly attitude but it is what it is).

When a top tier player play, and see his ally doing mistake, he obviously has right to not like that.

I want a shared army tourney to be set up so badly. But maybe only top level vs top level player. because when you play with a lower rated player, the team level will be lower than if the top player would have play alone.
I think shared army with a """"noob"""" player will only increase (x1000) better player rage. => Cancelling order, fucking up eco (launching tons of mexx to T2), bad micro; cancelling order is really the worst thing

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 13 Feb 2015, 14:08

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-12T23:34:26+02:00

A lot of top tier players, particularly the team game players, don't like playing with noobs anyway due to how often they can lose a game when they've outplayed their opponent (silly attitude but it is what it is). You might find it interesting to add a dynamic of noobs trying to snipe or draw pros but they might just not sign up shared armies would be a lot better imo.

That said the pros in my clan would probably do this, they know how to deal with cheesey noobs

Statistics: Posted by Sir Prize — 12 Feb 2015, 23:34

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-12T20:40:08+02:00

Sir Prize wrote:
Think this could also descend in to joe snipes the pro tourney

That could be an interesting aspect of the tourney, imo thatd be a valid strategy for teams to use, It'd be up to the opposing team to make sure it doesnt happen to their pro!

Hellcat wrote:
True, shared armies could be a nice idea too and a first time!

Maybe I'll put together a 1v1 co op tourney down the road, that could be very fun

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 12 Feb 2015, 20:40

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-12T19:47:26+02:00

Nice idea ! i would play

Statistics: Posted by Greenio — 12 Feb 2015, 19:47

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-12T11:39:19+02:00

True, shared armies could be a nice idea too and a first time!

Statistics: Posted by Hellcat — 12 Feb 2015, 11:39

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-12T11:23:38+02:00

Think this could also descend in to joe snipes the pro tourney, although it could still be good. I thought the teacher tournament was a really good idea, I couldn't play in it though. If the shared armies mod gets sorted out I think a pro+joe tournament with that would be great.

Statistics: Posted by Sir Prize — 12 Feb 2015, 11:23

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-12T10:36:19+02:00

If this don't turn into "I build mexxes and give all my eco to the pro" that could be fun !

Statistics: Posted by Hellcat — 12 Feb 2015, 10:36

Re: 2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-12T00:08:43+02:00

Seen something like this on PA, was pretty successful

Statistics: Posted by lextoc — 12 Feb 2015, 00:08

2v2 Pro + Joe Tourney

2015-02-11T23:50:09+02:00

I've spent the last couple days trying to think of a tournament Idea,
I was thinking of a 2v2 tourney, where one person is a pro (1600-1700+ish) And one player is a Joe (900-1400-ish)
This wouldn't be anytime soon, just curious what people think of the idea.

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 11 Feb 2015, 23:50