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Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T13:07:48+02:00

Timing out from the IRC is hardly reliable. Some people time out from the chat often, but their games are fine, or the exact opposite.
Challonge can't be manipulated. You know this. It also makes no difference in the slightest, since the same number of games would have been played anyway.

You don't like me. That's fine.

This thread is going nowhere, and I'm locking it.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 17 Jun 2014, 13:07

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T12:59:10+02:00

What are you talking about - you can clearly see from the IRC that he timed out.

And that doesn't excuse the first round ... 3 byes? Is the TD an idiot?

Yes they have?

Not on GPGnet - not on FAF - until seemingly this tournament, no, not ever.

Is that good enough for you?

LOL no. I have not now, nor ever respected your opinion, an opinion that is shared by a significant number of people.

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 17 Jun 2014, 12:59

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T12:32:00+02:00

rootbeer23 wrote:
Aurion wrote:In a 1v1 (peer-to-peer) there is no way to determine who actually had a bad connection (is at fault). I can't speak for the situation (have no idea what actually happened), but replying like you did in this thread is not a 'nice' way to handle it.

its possible if there is 1 observer in the game.

I know, but I have no idea if that's the case. Regardless, replying like Anaryl did is still not a 'nice' way to handle this, though.

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 17 Jun 2014, 12:32

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T12:27:52+02:00

Aurion wrote:
In a 1v1 (peer-to-peer) there is no way to determine who actually had a bad connection (is at fault). I can't speak for the situation (have no idea what actually happened), but replying like you did in this thread is not a 'nice' way to handle it.

its possible if there is 1 observer in the game.

Statistics: Posted by rootbeer23 — 17 Jun 2014, 12:27

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T12:09:07+02:00

Anaryl wrote:
By that logic whenever in formula 1 someone in formula one crashes, they should win because they were "going to win"

It's not up to me to ensure my opponent doesn't have a shitty computer/connection. The game was even after 40 minutes. In that case the disconnecting player should take the loss.

And never, ever in the history of FA tournaments have TD's made decisions in event of disconnects. How would you feel about a 800 rated player deciding your ranked games?

In a 1v1 (peer-to-peer) there is no way to determine who actually had a bad connection (is at fault). I can't speak for the situation (have no idea what actually happened), but replying like you did in this thread is not a 'nice' way to handle it.

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 17 Jun 2014, 12:09

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T11:53:11+02:00

Anaryl wrote:
And never, ever in the history of FA tournaments have TD's made decisions in event of disconnects.

Yes they have?

Statistics: Posted by Nombringer — 17 Jun 2014, 11:53

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T11:45:59+02:00

In terms of the disconnect: we can't know who disconnected, because faf also disconnected , making it impossible to see the replay in the vault.

Be assured that I also agreed that you had lost this game.
Is that good enough for you?

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 17 Jun 2014, 11:45

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T11:29:48+02:00

By that logic whenever in formula 1 someone in formula one crashes, they should win because they were "going to win"

It's not up to me to ensure my opponent doesn't have a shitty computer/connection. The game was even after 40 minutes. In that case the disconnecting player should take the loss.

And never, ever in the history of FA tournaments have TD's made decisions in event of disconnects. How would you feel about a 800 rated player deciding your ranked games?

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 17 Jun 2014, 11:29

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T04:36:19+02:00

Anaryl wrote:
The score was 65k to 60k.

You make the decision based on the player who wins, not the player who could've won. He disconnected - therefore I won. There are no TD decisions - and the factory? Please it had taken like 1% damage despite sustained fire.

The fact that the TD even decides on the matter is bullshit.

I mean if there is a disconnect, TD should be able to decide who wins or if the game needs to be replayed. It would be idiotic if someones computer crashed right before he lets say gets a straight snipe on opponent.

Also score doesn't necessarily show whose ahead.

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 17 Jun 2014, 04:36

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T01:17:57+02:00

Except I didn't lose.

People have been running tournaments for centuries before chollenge.

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 17 Jun 2014, 01:17

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-17T00:33:41+02:00

Anaryl wrote:
People should know this is what to expect from your tournies.

People should expect a Tournament that is filled with close fun fights.

People should expect to lose and be gracious in defeat.

People should expect and accept Challonge to be an ass at times.

And people should expect a great long evening as many players play some great games that many will use to learn and improve their 1v1 skills.

I know i said it twice already but thanks for taking the time and effort needed to host and run these tournaments Greenio.
When i first joined FAF 6 months ago all the tournaments were for the pros, you gave the Average Joes something to look forwards too.

Statistics: Posted by ZaZen — 17 Jun 2014, 00:33

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-16T23:56:20+02:00

Ha! Gorton!? Experienced?

People should know this is what to expect from your tournies.

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 16 Jun 2014, 23:56

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-16T23:52:10+02:00

Anaryl i can't believe this, i lost all my respect for you completely. I am glad
i'm being backed up by an experienced tourney director, and i'll take his
stance on this subject over yours any day.

Statistics: Posted by Greenio — 16 Jun 2014, 23:52

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-16T23:42:36+02:00

The score was 65k to 60k.

You make the decision based on the player who wins, not the player who could've won. He disconnected - therefore I won. There are no TD decisions - and the factory? Please it had taken like 1% damage despite sustained fire.

The fact that the TD even decides on the matter is bullshit.

Statistics: Posted by Anaryl — 16 Jun 2014, 23:42

Re: Average Joe's Tourney #2

2014-06-16T23:23:16+02:00

It's challonge, it can't be *fixed*.

I've watched the replay, and I agreed with the TD that you were behind significantly.

You know full well that his decision was based on what happened due to the placement of the factory, not the fact it's placed there.

I've checked the players. There were no people outside the rating requirements.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 16 Jun 2014, 23:23