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Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-24T17:47:53+02:00

Blitz tournament lost. Just read this now.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 24 May 2016, 17:47

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T16:03:20+02:00

Points difference based tournaments is a horrible idea, because rating is not even remotely accurate.

Same applies to a lesser extent to rating limited tournies too. Then its about which team has the most underrated players, not who are the best

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 23 May 2016, 16:03

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T16:01:39+02:00

Mephi wrote:
Hzale wrote:An advanced pointing system that allows any combination of players in a team and still give lower rated teams a good chance to win the tournament would be needed here.

do it the same way how rating system is working.

Not 3 points for winning, rather an amount of points depending on the difference in rank.

Edit: extra points for killing acus would also be possible

i thought about ACU kills before when i proposed the clan wars.
Award win points based on difference in rank is good, but if the high ranked won all his game, he will still win the tourney.
Unlike what was perceived, The Golden Horde wasnt that OP in stack wizards, the game on africa wasnt a decisive win, neither was wonder.

Statistics: Posted by Stups — 23 May 2016, 16:01

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T15:46:36+02:00

Hzale wrote:
Take boxing as an example, you dont let a heavyweight fight a lightweight with a good reason.

In MMA they give a poo about wight or how you fight. And its most popular fight comeptition.

Also with rating cap the situation is absoluthly same while you have cap under 1500 and join guy with 1499rating, and play against guy with 200rating.
Or you have 1000-1600 rating and 1001 against 1599.

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 23 May 2016, 15:46

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T14:21:37+02:00

Hzale wrote:
An advanced pointing system that allows any combination of players in a team and still give lower rated teams a good chance to win the tournament would be needed here.

do it the same way how rating system is working.

Not 3 points for winning, rather an amount of points depending on the difference in rank.

Edit: extra points for killing acus would also be possible

Statistics: Posted by Mephi — 23 May 2016, 14:21

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T14:19:34+02:00

A tournament is not always only about the best, it's more about competition. Take boxing as an example, you dont let a heavyweight fight a lightweight with a good reason.
There should be a reason why the last two 2v2 tourneys were capped at U3500 rating, right?
Maybe no cap prevented more lower rated (1300-1600) players to participate.
An advanced pointing system that allows any combination of players in a team and still give lower rated teams a good chance to win the tournament would be needed here. I dont know if there ever was something like this used in FAF history or if it is even doable.

Statistics: Posted by Hzale — 23 May 2016, 14:19

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T13:41:29+02:00

rating limits in tourney is stupid..
Imagine that in world championships will team refuse play because they are playing against previous year champion and never was in top 3.
"Guys we have no chance, they are too good, lets go rather home"
Maddnes.

Tournament is about the best. When is higer rated best then he should won. But also higer rated player have win ratio about 70% so still lose one game from three. Why he should not lose this porcion in tourney? Of course he can.

In clan tourney orginize by Zep I was part of (mighty) Bektos clan that was consider as party of loosers with average rating 1400 and when tourny will not have also 1v1 part we will won. Even against BC with average rating 1900

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 23 May 2016, 13:41

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T13:20:49+02:00

I'm biased as hell, but I never really liked rating caps, even if you win it doesn't feel like a real victory

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 23 May 2016, 13:20

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T13:03:54+02:00

Hzale wrote:
Thank you for hosting!
You could improve the quality of these tourneys by putting some rating limit on them so that the outcome is not 100% predictable.

i know these tourneys are being won by the higher ranked. Saying playing against them will actually improve you isnt really a reason enough to not cap the tourneys, but not having enough players to even hold the tourney, if a cap exists, is a reason.

Statistics: Posted by Stups — 23 May 2016, 13:03

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T12:25:19+02:00

Thank you for hosting!
You could improve the quality of these tourneys by putting some rating limit on them so that the outcome is not 100% predictable.

Statistics: Posted by Hzale — 23 May 2016, 12:25

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T11:51:05+02:00

/me wants more impromptu tourneys

Statistics: Posted by Blodir — 23 May 2016, 11:51

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T09:15:11+02:00

it was an experimental tourney, since it was a success, i'll start making more team game tourneys then.

Statistics: Posted by Stups — 23 May 2016, 09:15

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T01:26:40+02:00

Oh f*** I thought this was next weekend

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 23 May 2016, 01:26

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T01:14:22+02:00

ZLO_RD wrote:
"oh cool 2v2 tourney, i might play that"
"oh shit it already got casted"

Oh I feel ya bro.
*Wakes up and logs into the forum.*

"Whats this? a impromptu 2v2 tourney today? Sure- Ah shite it started an hour ago... nvm. :S "

Statistics: Posted by Beastmode — 23 May 2016, 01:14

Re: Blitz Duo tourney

2016-05-23T00:57:58+02:00

"oh cool 2v2 tourney, i might play that"
"oh shit it already got casted"

Statistics: Posted by ZLO_RD — 23 May 2016, 00:57