Forged Alliance Forever Forged Alliance Forever Forums 2015-05-29T10:21:18+02:00 /feed.php?f=2&t=9948 2015-05-29T10:21:18+02:00 2015-05-29T10:21:18+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100610#p100610 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]>

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 29 May 2015, 10:21


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2015-05-28T21:26:02+02:00 2015-05-28T21:26:02+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100596#p100596 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]> reinforcement then yeah you probably have less than 1 min to destroy it some way some how. Most games where you see the Scathis on Gap are over very shortly after because it is just that damn good.

Statistics: Posted by KD7BCH — 28 May 2015, 21:26


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2015-05-21T05:17:36+02:00 2015-05-21T05:17:36+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100322#p100322 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]>
KD7BCH wrote:
I also don't think the Scathis is OP on gap just very effective. When put under the Sera shields though yeah, it definitely will be a damage causer, however there are ways of taking it out, most notably nuke, or tele-mazor and yes of course strats, another EXP for example.


But it is on GAP, built at the proper range to be able to stop t4 or make SAMs ahead + sera shields.
Scathis is GG on Gap. But well it's GAP.

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 21 May 2015, 05:17


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2015-05-20T20:38:33+02:00 2015-05-20T20:38:33+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100303#p100303 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]>
-Axiom- wrote:
Use the engineering station to start reclaiming their stuff, they'll learn...


Exactly my technique however then they want know why I'm doing that which is why I decided to post in here for players to get a heads up.

I think I understand what was stated to be the new change, when passing ownership on the engineering station, they will be stated auto pause, and only then because they underwent ownership change, un-pausable with the explicit consent of the new owner, after proper notification which would be necessary to accommodate the un-pausing. Consent after notification, is a brilliant change.

I also do not think simply making them not work at all is a good move, players could rally their engineers via transports to a central build location anyway completely negating that if necessary. The cost of an early experimental, i.e. earlier than say 16 min on gap, is such that they sacrifice other positioning and gamble on the one single unit being successful at killing an enemy ACU or causing enough combined damage to warrant the mass cost. Even at 16 min it is possible to have enough T2 and T3 PD in place to stop it, or T2 air via gunships and fighter bombers.

If the defending team has air superiority I prefer Cybran T1 gunships en mass since they can be built really fast and have high enough dps to be effective against Monkey.

I also don't think the Scathis is OP on gap just very effective. When put under the Sera shields though yeah, it definitely will be a damage causer, however there are ways of taking it out, most notably nuke, or tele-mazor and yes of course strats, another EXP for example.

Scathis takes way longer to build and if only shielded by Cybran shields is way more vulnerable than under a combined defense. What other option do the Cybran have really at the end game? Their Aerial EXP sucks against the current anti air threat, their Strat bomber attack while effective is merely as effective as everybody elses, their ASFs while some say are better I simply don't find that to be the case. Their T3 Arty is massively overpriced, nukes are too easy countered, really SACU's can only really get you build power and RAS but it takes forever to amp up to the kind of mass rate you'd need to support exps en mass to benefit. Once you get the other players past 40 min if the have T1 PD around their ACU Scathis is your best option as Cybran.

Statistics: Posted by KD7BCH — 20 May 2015, 20:38


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2015-05-20T17:10:23+02:00 2015-05-20T17:10:23+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100295#p100295 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]> Statistics: Posted by -Axiom- — 20 May 2015, 17:10


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2015-05-18T12:17:41+02:00 2015-05-18T12:17:41+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100186#p100186 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]>
Col_Walter_Kurtz wrote:
I don't think I've ever seen this happen, but I can imagine that if someone is abusing it you are pissed off. not every time it is abuse though IMO.


In which case it's easy for the receiving party to active the hyve.

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 18 May 2015, 12:17


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2015-05-18T11:53:55+02:00 2015-05-18T11:53:55+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100185#p100185 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]> Statistics: Posted by Col_Walter_Kurtz — 18 May 2015, 11:53


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2015-05-17T00:53:57+02:00 2015-05-17T00:53:57+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100146#p100146 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]> Statistics: Posted by ax0lotl — 17 May 2015, 00:53


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2015-05-16T22:37:55+02:00 2015-05-16T22:37:55+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100139#p100139 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]>
KD7BCH wrote:
Im not sure I'd go that far but Id definitely make it clear and plain that it is happening to players so we know.


No, auto-pause on transfer makes perfect sense. Too much assholes around sharing these stations, then doing RAS, instantly dumping the entire team's intel AND mass income.

As for Gap and Cybran... that Scathis is seriously imba. Build it with both mid players, let the sera build the shields, and voila. Even if they strat it, you can build almost new one from the reclaimed air...

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 16 May 2015, 22:37


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2015-05-16T11:18:59+02:00 2015-05-16T11:18:59+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100123#p100123 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]>
KD7BCH wrote:
Im not sure I'd go that far but Id definitely make it clear and plain that it is happening to players so we know.


With disabled, he means paused. You can manually unpause it (which is a small effort if you actually want to get it as a gift).

Statistics: Posted by Aurion — 16 May 2015, 11:18


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2015-05-16T04:53:07+02:00 2015-05-16T04:53:07+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100116#p100116 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]> Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 16 May 2015, 04:53


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2015-05-16T02:50:25+02:00 2015-05-16T02:50:25+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100112#p100112 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]> Statistics: Posted by KD7BCH — 16 May 2015, 02:50


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2015-05-16T00:01:01+02:00 2015-05-16T00:01:01+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100107#p100107 <![CDATA[Re: Engineering Stations]]> Statistics: Posted by speed2 — 16 May 2015, 00:01


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2015-05-15T19:42:10+02:00 2015-05-15T19:42:10+02:00 /viewtopic.php?t=9948&p=100088#p100088 <![CDATA[Engineering Stations]]>
At least ping me once so I know I am losing mass and where it is going.

Statistics: Posted by KD7BCH — 15 May 2015, 19:42


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