Forged Alliance Forever

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-07-26T04:37:46+02:00

Well I would like to say thanks TA.

I'm encouraged that when it doesn't go too well on a map I know I'll have a chance to play it again soon. I think it will help me get better faster.

In my opinion player skill is only part of the equation, knowledge of the map is important too. If all maps were randomly generated and removed that aspect of the game it would make it fair but less enjoyable as you'd never know if it would have gone better if you did something differently.

Madformuse (800 ladder)

Statistics: Posted by madformuse — 26 Jul 2015, 04:37

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-07-04T22:47:27+02:00

Bump.

Is this happening? Please say yes.

Statistics: Posted by JaggedAppliance — 04 Jul 2015, 22:47

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-06-01T16:26:25+02:00

Yeah, this would be nice, I was just going to sleep think about annoying the pool is. Any update?

Statistics: Posted by Sir Prize — 01 Jun 2015, 16:26

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-06-01T11:21:15+02:00

So, how is this going?

What about ladder reset?

Statistics: Posted by Hascins — 01 Jun 2015, 11:21

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-19T08:14:48+02:00

Personally I enjoy variety. I'd rather launch ladder without knowing what I'll get - especially because then I have a larger pool of maps to choose from in custom games which I can say, "I've played this, it's balanced, it's not modeled to look like two dicks are touching".

As for Setons, when it comes up I'll play it. I think it's silly for a 1v1 game because it offers four bases of mass extractors, tons of mass in the middle, two expansions in the wings, and it's huge. People seem to not know how to play it, often times - I've had players walk towards the front lines with their ACUs only to learn the horrible lessons that all that mass easily produces an army that can kill an ACU on a freak occurrence. Badlands is one thing, but Setons has a pretty ridiculous sprawl for only two people to occupy.

You can put Betrayal Ocean in the ladder pool and I'd play it. I wouldn't be happy, but I'd do it. You can keep Setons in too, but I'll be one of the people who enjoys the ladder a little less if there are only fifteen maps and one or two of them are maps I just don't like. The rotation plan sounds like the way to go if you're going to run the ladder with a smaller map pool, though.

Statistics: Posted by Flamingo — 19 May 2015, 08:14

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-15T14:57:19+02:00

Maybe rather discuss what has or has not been done we leave this thread to TA's original inquiry.

At the most, we should just get an ETA as to when something like this can be implemented rather shout about what has been done.

Personally I haven't seen a "cannot connector server or FaF is down" since it transferred. That used to happen so frequently in the past it was infuriating.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 15 May 2015, 14:57

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-14T23:40:44+02:00

Lyr wrote:
The majority do not? That's patently untrue.

Nearly every match I get will take an offered draw. Most people I know on ladder don't even have the map installed.

6 months since a ladder map rotation? Why does it take so long to get a simple thing done?

I think you missed the bold parts from eggrolls post:

theeggroll wrote:
Two maps were added to the ladder within the last month, and a couple months ago a few maps were removed from the ladder pool. As much as you (And I) hate setons, the majority of people do not, and therefore it should stay in the ladder pool.
Here's the link to those that were removed viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9106

@lyr Setons is a part of the base game distribution, if you (or anyone else you know) deleted the map, you/they are violating our rules.

Statistics: Posted by Sheeo — 14 May 2015, 23:40

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-14T22:54:54+02:00

The majority do not? That's patently untrue.

Nearly every match I get will take an offered draw. Most people I know on ladder don't even have the map installed.

6 months since a ladder map rotation? Why does it take so long to get a simple thing done?

Statistics: Posted by Lyr — 14 May 2015, 22:54

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-14T19:23:35+02:00

Lyr wrote:
Here's an idea.

Pull Setons from the ladder.

If you can do that, it might give me confidence that anybody can do anything at all. Because despite numerous threads and 'ideas for saving the ladder', if you can't do that, then you can't do anything, and these threads are a waste of everyone's time.

Two maps were added to the ladder within the last month, and a couple months ago a few maps were removed from the ladder pool. As much as you (And I) hate setons, the majority of people do not, and therefore it should stay in the ladder pool.
Here's the link to those that were removed viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9106

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 14 May 2015, 19:23

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-14T06:42:49+02:00

Here's an idea.

Pull Setons from the ladder.

If you can do that, it might give me confidence that anybody can do anything at all. Because despite numerous threads and 'ideas for saving the ladder', if you can't do that, then you can't do anything, and these threads are a waste of everyone's time.

Statistics: Posted by Lyr — 14 May 2015, 06:42

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-13T01:53:53+02:00

SeraphimLeftNut wrote:
lextoc wrote:
Sheeo wrote:We have a lot of things in the pipeline currently, but I realize this means a lot to a lot of players, so I'll make sure we prioritize it more.

Do we've an ETA on that? Not to be harsh but I'm really unsatisfied with the visible progress in the last half year. Then again I'm not helping so who am I to complain...

Being supcom players they are building up their base first, they have only made a few weak unints so far for scouting. There will come a time when they will switch completely to exp spam and FAF will get 10 new features a day.

This is figuratively true. Nearly all the work I've done for faf has been cleaning the blood off the walls. Two weeks back I deleted 99% of the coop code: it still works, and seems to be less broken than it was before. Last month sheeo and I deleted over half the server code in a weekend, and nothing broke.

We are approaching the point where we can start adding new things, but I'm hesitant to make a time estimate. The next release will include the bulk of the unfucking, and should yield substantial wins in terms of stability, performance, and security. We've already done incredible amounts, we just can't publish it yet because the way things are structured force us to release all of it at once: the new lobby was a little bit we were able to break off and publish by itself, but there's so much more that has been done.

Very excellent, very noticeable things will happen over the next 2-3 months as we pull ourselves out of this hole. Our manpower has grown, we're getting better tools (last week we built an instrumenting profiler that lets us get detailed performance measurements about the sim, which opens up possibilities for helping to reduce lag a little, for example).

It's going to be epic.

Statistics: Posted by ckitching — 13 May 2015, 01:53

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-12T22:37:33+02:00

SeraphimLeftNut wrote:
lextoc wrote:
Sheeo wrote:We have a lot of things in the pipeline currently, but I realize this means a lot to a lot of players, so I'll make sure we prioritize it more.

Do we've an ETA on that? Not to be harsh but I'm really unsatisfied with the visible progress in the last half year. Then again I'm not helping so who am I to complain...

Being supcom players they are building up their base first, they have only made a few weak unints so far for scouting. There will come a time when they will switch completely to exp spam and FAF will get 10 new features a day.

Nice way of putting it.

Lextoc, I know we don't have a lot of visible progress at the moment. For now, the base work that TA is referring to is mostly visible from the graphs here, here and overall on github here.

Statistics: Posted by Sheeo — 12 May 2015, 22:37

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-12T20:05:34+02:00

lextoc wrote:
Sheeo wrote:We have a lot of things in the pipeline currently, but I realize this means a lot to a lot of players, so I'll make sure we prioritize it more.

Do we've an ETA on that? Not to be harsh but I'm really unsatisfied with the visible progress in the last half year. Then again I'm not helping so who am I to complain...

Being supcom players they are building up their base first, they have only made a few weak unints so far for scouting. There will come a time when they will switch completely to exp spam and FAF will get 10 new features a day.

Statistics: Posted by SeraphimLeftNut — 12 May 2015, 20:05

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-12T19:31:31+02:00

lextoc wrote:
Sheeo wrote:We have a lot of things in the pipeline currently, but I realize this means a lot to a lot of players, so I'll make sure we prioritize it more.

Do we've an ETA on that? Not to be harsh but I'm really unsatisfied with the visible progress in the last half year. Then again I'm not helping so who am I to complain...

maybe go to github. You will be able to see part of the work that have been done, and that you can't be aware of otherwise.

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 12 May 2015, 19:31

Re: If I was in charge of the ladder...

2015-05-12T19:24:31+02:00

I really like the idea of getting to remove one map from map from your pool. Being good means you have to be versatile of course, but if theres a map that you truly hate, you should have the option to remove it. I personally hate Eye of the storm with every fiber of my being, I don't control k or anything when i get it, but its so hard to try when I get it.

Statistics: Posted by theeggroll — 12 May 2015, 19:24