Forged Alliance Forever

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T21:34:49+02:00

Hello all,

i came home from a long day at work today and i was really unhappy to see this thread. I'm responsible for all moderators since i was voted for the position as councillor of the moderator team and i want to start this post with some informations about me. I'm 27 years old and a department manager in the public service of my county. I became a moderator in gpgnet 5 years ago and i was realy happy that Ze_PilOt also added me as a moderator in FAF.

Ok, let's go on topic now. All moderators actions are posted at the Administrative Actions thread and all moderators have to do a second post at the moderators forum with the reasons. We always take a screen shot if e.g. someone insults a player in #aeolus or we demand a screen shoot if someone wants to report an other user. To say the actions of a moderator are always comprehensible and i'm checking the forum every day.

Furthermore we have a rule that isn't written anywhere: "Don't decide about a topic where you are personally involved." To say if e.g. someone insults a moderator in a team game then he reports this to an other moderator.
Someone said we would abuse our power in the way that we are kicking a players out of games and there would be no way to proof this. If you are kicked by a moderator then your FA is closing in under one second and you won't get a message and all here know how a game crash is going on. To say you would notice it.

We realy try to do a good job and i'm on it to improve our work as you can see here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=9532&start=100

@Zoram, we are proofing the facts at the moment and will make a decision soon.

I will close this thread now. If you have a good idea how we can improve our moderation then we will listen and you can always write a private message to me if you have a problem or you just want to talk about something.

FAF Client/Forum Rules are now also written at the wiki (thanks to Exotic_Retard):
http://wiki.faforever.com/index.php?tit ... orum_Rules

-Voodoo

Statistics: Posted by Voodoo — 19 Mar 2015, 21:34

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T20:37:20+02:00

I don't have a specific issue with mod's behavior a I don't use Aeolus, however I'm quite confused as to what action is taken when an ingame offense is reported.

I reported a player several time, first time in february, yet everytime I checked, reported behavior continues with no apparent consequence. If what I reported doesn't constitute an offense (winning then creating a draw to stay at 300 rating forever despite defacto winning 90 % of games), I'd like some feedback as to why

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 19 Mar 2015, 20:37

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T19:45:56+02:00

I don't know what's currently going on but I see a lot of discussions about moderator and abuses etc.

Therefore, if you need some new, reasonable and calm mod who doesn't abuse his rights in any way, is GMT+1, actively playing, and online 4-5 days a week, contact me.

Statistics: Posted by Downlord — 19 Mar 2015, 19:45

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T19:38:41+02:00

Mephi wrote:
Ceneraii wrote:I'm one of those people who like to skirt the rules every now and then, because I like messing around a bit (and my tendency towards colorful language) and always do this in good nature.

If you are one of those persons, then you have to accept that your "messing around" might lead to punishment, because it may go to far at some point. you cant claim to not get punished if you admit that you like to "skirt the rules".
I am really tired of these kinds of posts and statements, if youre character is not compatible with the rules you will have problems always and everywhere. Accept that or change your behaviour.

I don't care about getting banned, I just thought I'd post my experiences with (perceived?) faults in the system, because I have this strange idea that's what open discussions are for? The reason I mention I'm one of those jackasses who tends to get kicked/banned is to point out I have plenty of experience with the current system and set of moderators. Y'know, the thing we're talking about in this thread and I'd like to think I raised some valid points ;D

Also, ''accept that or change your behaviour''? That's a rather inane statement considering we're talking about a game chatroom, (of which aeolus is byyyyyyyyy faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar one of the mildest I've ever encountered) and I'm not gonna change my behaviour because certain moderators want to play the badass hardliner. Instead I take note of these occurences, remember them and contribute to the open discussion that will naturally arrive as this behaviour continues.

Oh wait, I think I'm talking in circles ;D

Statistics: Posted by Ceneraii — 19 Mar 2015, 19:38

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T19:16:36+02:00

ColonelSheppard wrote:
I think Gorton should be sent to prison for stealing his 2000$ Jacket, we all know that Brnk is only Zep's superadvanced programm that developed his own will and no longer tries to take over FAF for Zep but for himself, Legion and Viking are really terrible mods, because only people who actively play games should be mods. Also Legion abused his powers to close my game once which i otherwise would have won. And do we really want to have an ocultist that is taken over by an alien frog to lead the mod team? And Nombringer is totally unsupervised when the civilized world (Europe & US) is aseelp! Thats basicly like parking your children in front of the television. And the worst of all: This anti Cybran, anti Aeon UEF hardliner called Deering, i mean he's known for kicking players from FAF if they choose Aeon in ladder (thats basicly the only reason why Aeon have SOMEWHAT balanced winning stats) - gj Deering!

I don't know if this is satire (the occultist that is taken over by a alien frog sounds too rad to be true).

However, if anyone here really want a general cleanup of the chat and admins that are quite consistent on their actions about what gets banned then just hire them from r/shitredditsays

Statistics: Posted by zeroAPM — 19 Mar 2015, 19:16

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T19:09:53+02:00

i never had problems with mods.
i nearly never hear of matter of those kind from my friend playing the game.
From my point of view, since there is no matter with moderation, there is no fix to be add.
Maybe people have some issue with mod. But i don't.

Statistics: Posted by keyser — 19 Mar 2015, 19:09

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T18:26:36+02:00

I think Gorton should be sent to prison for stealing his 2000$ Jacket, we all know that Brnk is only Zep's superadvanced programm that developed his own will and no longer tries to take over FAF for Zep but for himself, Legion and Viking are really terrible mods, because only people who actively play games should be mods. Also Legion abused his powers to close my game once which i otherwise would have won. And do we really want to have an ocultist that is taken over by an alien frog to lead the mod team? And Nombringer is totally unsupervised when the civilized world (Europe & US) is aseelp! Thats basicly like parking your children in front of the television. And the worst of all: This anti Cybran, anti Aeon UEF hardliner called Deering, i mean he's known for kicking players from FAF if they choose Aeon in ladder (thats basicly the only reason why Aeon have SOMEWHAT balanced winning stats) - gj Deering!

Statistics: Posted by ColonelSheppard — 19 Mar 2015, 18:26

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T18:33:32+02:00

In my opinion the moderators are doing a fine job most of the time but there are certainly things wrong. The rules are not clear and inconsistent. Having d*** in your name is a bannable offense yet aeolus talks about dicks all day. The rules should be clearly written down somewhere. Discussing moderator actions being disallowed and even a bannable offense is ridiculous and dictatorial. Don't allow it in aeolus, fine, but then make a subforum dedicated to it. It seems that being a moderator is for life regardless of whether you abuse that power. At the very least moderators who abuse their power should be removed. It's unclear why some people get banned but others do not. Some people get banned for things that you see every day in setons Lifetime bans are too harsh in my opinion. Maybe somebody had a rough period in his life and acted badly for a time. I think after couple of months they can get a second chance. The worst that can happen is that they act badly again and they get immediately banned for a few months more.

I agree with mozart that the amount of toilet humor is tiresome. Perhaps it would be nice to have a chat room separate from #aeolus dedicated to that. TAG_Uber made such a chatroom once and it worked very well.

That said I am not sure about electing moderators, because I feel like it would turn into hordes of people voting for the 2 people they have seen in a gyle cast out of 20 names they don't know.

Statistics: Posted by Vee — 19 Mar 2015, 18:19

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T17:55:47+02:00

Gorton wrote:
About chat:

I think you can easily see that people are saying things in chat that are
net/nerd/dirty humor.

So I'm confused as to why this is brought up. It happens. It's not bothered about.

This is different to someone insulting someone directly, or going ott.

There was a particular event that involved names that included the topics of a dog and a jar of peanut butter that got me and a few other people banned, so yeah I think it's relevant.

We didn't even use racial slurs nor directly insult anyone. We took up fifteen minutes of Aeolus chat for something harmless.

Statistics: Posted by Morax — 19 Mar 2015, 17:55

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T17:43:52+02:00

To begin, Casimus you are the person in any video game i've played, who had the worst behaviour. You use very dirty insult because you was suspecting me to be someone else (Lion i think) after i recreate an account. So if your point is to let anyone being able to be moderator by vote, i say no and it would be very dangerous for faf to have moderator like you.
About the current moderator team, i find they make good work, the only one i had problem with was SIN who closed my game after i kick him because we was full.
It can be a vote to renew moderator team, but a vote with a selection of possible moderator given by the council of seton by example.
We cant let any popular troller / cheater / Smurf / any player having bad behaviour prentend to be a moderator.
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Statistics: Posted by jackherer — 19 Mar 2015, 17:43

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T17:19:24+02:00

What you should do is purge the moderator team, and make them re-apply. Some are corrupt as hell, some are good, some are too zealous, some are too inconsistent. What has come to light lately, is that some moderators have been having a free run of the place, some for a very long time. What is needed is glasnost. The system is corrupt as hell.

Statistics: Posted by Occams_Chainsaw — 19 Mar 2015, 17:19

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T17:16:58+02:00

About chat:

I think you can easily see that people are saying things in chat that are

net/nerd/dirty humor.

So I'm confused as to why this is brought up. It happens. It's not bothered about.

This is different to someone insulting someone directly, or going ott.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 19 Mar 2015, 17:16

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T16:18:53+02:00

Maybe there are some questions you guys should think about:

(Sadly as a net poster im not allowed to link the meaning of the latin part. Wikipedia will surely help you understanding it.)

Statistics: Posted by Stout — 19 Mar 2015, 16:18

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T16:03:16+02:00

Morax wrote:
Agreed - If naughty language and racial comments irk you to a point where you feel violated then get the hell out of an online gaming community.

Actually, stay locked up in your house, disconnected from the whole world. Welcome to the real world Neo

Not that I do enjoy or find those interesting for a bit, but I am grown up enough to ignore those and let the kids have fun. They do no harm. But hey , some people like to be righteous and act like hypocrites

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 19 Mar 2015, 16:03

Re: Moderators

2015-03-19T16:00:31+02:00

People focus this thread on Casimus, it's not. It's not about him wanting to be mod, nor is it just about his encounters with one mod. Get the bigger picture ?
Can you be smarter than that ? Thx

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 19 Mar 2015, 16:00