Forged Alliance Forever

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-10T02:48:57+02:00

partytime wrote:
Yeah those props are great. Are they just a 2d image? We could make a mod to show veterency and upgardes.

Would it have to be a sim mod?

I understand your points about UV meshes

they are 3d images

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 10 Jan 2015, 02:48

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-10T02:20:09+02:00

u can still make better quality textures. for example in photoshop, put camoflague layer over normal acu texture and reduce camo opacity. Now you have a high quality acu texture With camo. I could make a tool that does it nicely, to all 4 acus.

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 10 Jan 2015, 02:20

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-10T02:13:21+02:00

Yeah those props are great. Are they just a 2d image? We could make a mod to show veterency and upgardes.

Would it have to be a sim mod?

I understand your points about UV meshes

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 10 Jan 2015, 02:13

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-10T00:32:08+02:00

The skins are easy to make if your doing something generic that's not dependent on the type of mesh being covered. I.E. camouflage
However anything that requires that the texture match the mesh's UV is going to be both ungodly time consuming and will NOT work with any other mesh.

However an alternative is to use props to denote the status or rank of a unit, such as shown in the video below...

Video: http://youtu.be/Q1TCzdmgEhE
Note: this is the 4DC / DMS leach field in action!

This can be used for anything you want from a players rank to special Easter eggs for players who've won tournaments ect...

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 10 Jan 2015, 00:32

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-09T04:54:01+02:00

actually i think the skins could be great. VOKDA I actually agree that loud garish skins shouldn't be integrated into the main game. I think Resin's demos were just quick examples ...

here is something i made, not because i think it's great, but just to learn how to do it.

(red eyes, rainbow body, artwork on gun and legs)

it would take a long long time, but I think I could make a pretty sweet looking skin that still fits in with the look and feel of FA - much better than my example here

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 09 Jan 2015, 04:54

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T17:13:20+02:00

me too. but i worked out how to do it.

it wouldn't be ui thing because you need to change the blueprint of one acu from icon1 to icon2

if the second player didnt do that as well then there would be a desync - blueprints are different.

however player2 can just have icons 1 and 2 and they happen to look exactly the same. So the change to the blueprint would be identical (preventing desync) but the images would appear differently.

*dusts hands*

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 07 Jan 2015, 17:13

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T17:07:37+02:00

partytime wrote:
No, this would not be a ui thing. It would desync.

I was talking about icons

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 07 Jan 2015, 17:07

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T17:01:05+02:00

No, this would not be a ui thing. It would desync.

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 07 Jan 2015, 17:01

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T16:55:30+02:00

_VODKA_ wrote:
Resin_Smoker wrote:
_VODKA_ wrote:Sure good man. Just look one post above yours.

Vodka, I can always skin an ACU to look like a Smirnoff bottle if that floats your boat or are you a fuzz-navel kinda guy?

Resin

Look, I'm not trying to step on any toes and I'm sorry if I did.

I just don't want to see this game changed more than absolutely necessary. If people want to run fancy graphics mods fine - make pink mantis shooting confetti - but don't force it as part of the game. There have already been so many changes since GPG days and looking from that perspective I'm not too fond of a number of them. It's a slippery slope.

Strategic icons is a UI thing so it can be user based. Maybe have someone make a mod that includes these Icon enhancements if they want them.

Statistics: Posted by Aulex — 07 Jan 2015, 16:55

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T15:27:14+02:00

Resin_Smoker wrote:
_VODKA_ wrote:Sure good man. Just look one post above yours.

Vodka, I can always skin an ACU to look like a Smirnoff bottle if that floats your boat or are you a fuzz-navel kinda guy?

Resin

Look, I'm not trying to step on any toes and I'm sorry if I did.

I just don't want to see this game changed more than absolutely necessary. If people want to run fancy graphics mods fine - make pink mantis shooting confetti - but don't force it as part of the game. There have already been so many changes since GPG days and looking from that perspective I'm not too fond of a number of them. It's a slippery slope.

Statistics: Posted by Col_Walter_Kurtz — 07 Jan 2015, 15:27

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T11:23:56+02:00

Hawkei wrote:
By zooming in and seeing which bone the upgrade swirl is centred around. Then on a completed ACU seeing which accessories have been attached. It is quite possible to determine which ACU slots are being, or have been, upgraded. I thought everyone did this.

Imho we should not have to do such things. It's a strategic game, with a strategic view. We should know which enemy we are fighting with a simple glance. Like it is for normal units.
Currently the way it's done, it's the same thing as if we had the same icons for all units, with just subtle 3D model differences, and we had to zoom in, or wait for it to attack before knowing which type of unit we face.

But that's not the point of this thread

Statistics: Posted by Aarhun — 07 Jan 2015, 11:23

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T11:02:43+02:00

Aarhun wrote:
which part of ACU was upgraded with icon (or any UI part). I find it cumbersome currently, but somehow old players seems used to deduce from ACU effect in field, or from zooming in and checking the little white light of the upgrade animation.

By zooming in and seeing which bone the upgrade swirl is centred around. Then on a completed ACU seeing which accessories have been attached. It is quite possible to determine which ACU slots are being, or have been, upgraded. I thought everyone did this.

Statistics: Posted by Hawkei — 07 Jan 2015, 11:02

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T10:26:31+02:00

partytime wrote:
Or to show command upgrades:

(left arm, right arm, torso, all three)

p.s. i'm not saying this is a brilliant idea

p.s. sorry resin for polluting your thread

I was asking a similar thing, being capable of seeing which part of ACU was upgraded with icon (or any UI part). I find it cumbersome currently, but somehow old players seems used to deduce from ACU effect in field, or from zooming in and checking the little white light of the upgrade animation.

Anyway don't forget that there are mod that overide the strategic icons, like the brilliant ASI /viewtopic.php?f=41&t=2740

Statistics: Posted by Aarhun — 07 Jan 2015, 10:26

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T10:18:53+02:00

Or to show command upgrades:

(left arm, right arm, torso, all three)

p.s. i'm not saying this is a brilliant idea

p.s. sorry resin for polluting your thread

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 07 Jan 2015, 10:18

Re: FAF Unit skins

2015-01-07T08:21:57+02:00

How about strat icons for acus to show your (ranked) rating?

(scout/t1/t2/t3/XP)

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 07 Jan 2015, 08:21