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Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-02T03:02:19+02:00

If this is a serious topic, can we have a thread about it that discusses the topic?
Locked.

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 02 Jan 2015, 03:02

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T23:56:01+02:00

if seraphim isn't unique what makes the others unique?

Napalm175 wrote:
partytime wrote:I nominate Flynn as the Troll Counciller

I agree.

I nominate Flynn for the Troll Council too.

Statistics: Posted by belatedcube — 01 Jan 2015, 23:56

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T23:52:59+02:00

I love it!
I love reading such posts one day after new years eve, killing the rest of the sparkling wine.
thank you

btw: why bother? i can not even tell the difference between aeon and this alien race, despite remembering their name. i just gladfully blow them to pieces if they come near my cybran/core mass machines.

Statistics: Posted by rxnnxs — 01 Jan 2015, 23:52

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T22:38:38+02:00

You know GPG covered this in the back story, Aeon tech is based on Seraphim tech. You can see it in little details like the Ythotha's eye being the same as the GC's.

Statistics: Posted by Arkansas — 01 Jan 2015, 22:38

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T20:42:52+02:00

Seraphim should have a unit that kills by destroying others' brain cells.codename : Flynn.

Unique. U got it.

Statistics: Posted by -_V_- — 01 Jan 2015, 20:42

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T20:24:57+02:00

Flynn wrote:
Napalm175 wrote:This one time I lost to a seraphim player, so clearly the entire faction is broken and should be removed from every game mode. Please get rid of it! This game is completely IMBA unless we do this!!!

Why don't you actually read the thread you odious cretin? My argument is that the faction is not unique, it is supposed to be alien and other worldly but it is just a mixture of all the other factions.

They say don't argue with an idiot, so I'll try not to...I didn't realize that this topic was serious, so I posted something non serious. Didn't know it actually meant something to you. Also, of course I won't read this topic if you have such a retarded name for it. Seriously, think about it. Also, why the insults? Was I supposed to infer that you are being sincere about a faction not belonging in the game? Get out of here.

partytime wrote:
I nominate Flynn as the Troll Counciller

I agree.

Statistics: Posted by Napalm175 — 01 Jan 2015, 20:24

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T20:13:58+02:00

I nominate Flynn as the Troll Counciller

Statistics: Posted by nine2 — 01 Jan 2015, 20:13

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T19:56:43+02:00

Napalm175 wrote:
This one time I lost to a seraphim player, so clearly the entire faction is broken and should be removed from every game mode. Please get rid of it! This game is completely IMBA unless we do this!!!

Why don't you actually read the thread you odious cretin? My argument is that the faction is not unique, it is supposed to be alien and other worldly but it is just a mixture of all the other factions.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 01 Jan 2015, 19:56

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T19:55:53+02:00

Ithilis_Quo wrote:
E8400-CV wrote:Because the game is complicated enough as-is and the nomads look totally alien to the game.

its totaly same with serafin

Problem with Nomads is that the version that made it into FAF is nothing like the Alpha copies I currently hold. Several major / unique unit abilities never saw the light of day. Now as of consequence the Nomads are struggling to find a unique niche of their own to fill.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 01 Jan 2015, 19:55

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T19:15:48+02:00

E8400-CV wrote:
Because the game is complicated enough as-is and the nomads look totally alien to the game.

its totaly same with serafin

Statistics: Posted by Ithilis_Quo — 01 Jan 2015, 19:15

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T19:11:08+02:00

Vee wrote:
Seraphim doesn't really have much less uniqueness than other factions because none of the factions are very unique. The basic mechanics of every faction is the same. It's like age of empires, with one "master faction design" and the actual factions are minor variations on that. Compare it with a game like Starcraft where each faction is totally different.

Unique seraphim abilities:

- Hover arty
- Selen
- Submersible destroyer
- AOE cruiser
- Nuke battleship
- Scout that scouts even after death
- T3 submarine
- T3 shield
- Unique exps, like the other factions
- Some unique ACU/SCU upgrades

Thats not enough to set them apart, especially considering the fact that they're not only aliens but from another dimension.
IMO they need more units, with abilities / enhancements that stand far apart from the other factions.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 01 Jan 2015, 19:11

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T19:09:35+02:00

This one time I lost to a seraphim player, so clearly the entire faction is broken and should be removed from every game mode. Please get rid of it! This game is completely IMBA unless we do this!!!

Statistics: Posted by Napalm175 — 01 Jan 2015, 19:09

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T19:09:46+02:00

Seraphim doesn't really have much less uniqueness than other factions because none of the factions are very unique. The basic mechanics of every faction is the same. It's like age of empires, with one "master faction design" and the actual factions are minor variations on that. Just look at the unitDB at http://content.faforever.com/faf/unitsDB/, and you see just how similar the factions are when you line the units up in a list. Compare it with a game like Starcraft where each faction is totally different.

Unique seraphim abilities:

- Hover arty
- Selen
- Submersible destroyer
- AOE cruiser
- Nuke battleship
- Scout that scouts even after death
- T3 submarine
- T3 shield
- Unique exps, like the other factions
- Some unique ACU/SCU upgrades

Statistics: Posted by Vee — 01 Jan 2015, 19:00

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T18:48:20+02:00

Ithilis_Quo wrote:
I agree that game is better with serafins as whiteout. And doesnt mean that i personaly dont like them, and play maybe 5%of my games as serafins.

And this argument i see as very usefull :
-_V_- wrote:Dont like. Dont play.

Its same with nomads.

dont like them dont paly them, why are ppl then against integration?

Because the game is complicated enough as-is and the nomads look totally alien to the game.

Statistics: Posted by E8400-CV — 01 Jan 2015, 18:48

Re: Should Seraphim have been left out of the playable facti

2015-01-01T17:32:19+02:00

IMO the Seraphim need units and abilities that are unique to the game, rather than just re-packaging the abilities of the other factions.

Resin

Statistics: Posted by Resin_Smoker — 01 Jan 2015, 17:32