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Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-27T12:34:04+02:00

So.... where do you draw the line on not having APM? because zero APM would be turn based. Anything less than turn based and you are going to have to issue some commands. I am not sure what you are really going for here..... Do you want to remove eco from the game? If not then you are going to have to issue build commands. this goes for any aspect.

Statistics: Posted by BRNKoINSANITY — 27 Dec 2014, 12:34

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-27T12:31:40+02:00

What annoys me about micro is that one missclick can completely mess things up. Like accidently selecting all you're engineers instead of the one you want and getting them all to build a single mex. We have a word in English: "Fiddly" it means something that is easy to mess up and requires a lot of imprecise manipulation to do. A strategy should not depend on you're APM and the quality of said APM. It should depend on spotting and exploiting weaknesses in you're opponent's strategy and you can't do that if all you're attention is dedicated to clicking on you're 10001th rock or wreck to reclaim.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 27 Dec 2014, 12:31

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T19:14:13+02:00

Gorton wrote:
I'm going to make a point on the previous topic first, if you don't mind Flynn.
SetonsGrandpa, watch your tone. No one cares for it.

Aside from that, I agree with him on this:
Spoiler: show
i'm telling you that TW has 0 strategy and micro and anything

The highest depth of inbattle micro you're going to find is engage, retreat, send horse from behind, have ranged units behind infantry.
The highest depth of strategy you'll find is "make more troops than the enemy, attack them, annex, no one cares you did that -> repeat until you painted the map your colour".

just to know, who said that (I'm to lazy to look), because RTT( for me anything that have no eco management) need much more strat than any other game, not only strat but Tatics.
like what you said you need to use only the terrain, the weather conditions, your troops types to win a battle...

an real example of this is the battle of Agincourt on the hundred years war.

R.T.Tatics bitch

Statistics: Posted by Gerfand — 26 Dec 2014, 19:14

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T19:04:16+02:00

SpaceCom...
it's a Strategy to bone game... so you only have to move ships between systems.

Don't know what micro means for you, but for me there no micro on that game!

Statistics: Posted by Gerfand — 26 Dec 2014, 19:04

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T18:15:38+02:00

+1 for wargame series, still have micro but less that this you probably will get out of RTS field.

The serie Hearts of Iron could be a good choice too. But is a grant strategy game.

Statistics: Posted by sisso — 26 Dec 2014, 18:15

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T16:13:45+02:00

Gorton wrote:
I'm going to make a point on the previous topic first, if you don't mind Flynn.
SetonsGrandpa, watch your tone. No one cares for it.

Aside from that, I agree with him on this:
Spoiler: show
i'm telling you that TW has 0 strategy and micro and anything

The highest depth of inbattle micro you're going to find is engage, retreat, send horse from behind, have ranged units behind infantry.
The highest depth of strategy you'll find is "make more troops than the enemy, attack them, annex, no one cares you did that -> repeat until you painted the map your colour".

That bad ?
I plaid like 30 minutes at empire total war, it was too much for my pc of the time, I have to try again.

The principle looks like strategy, it doesn't look that straightforward to properly allocate battle units taking into account terrain, knowledge of ennemy strengths and weaknesses, etc.. ( or it wouldn't have taken a United Europe and the Russian winter to take Napoleon down )
Maybe the execution of the idea wasn't good though.

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 26 Dec 2014, 16:13

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T15:47:36+02:00

Flynn wrote:
CAN WE GET BACK TO THE TOPIC PLEASE. IF YOU DON'T WILL WILL FLAME YOU SEVERELY. THANKS.

lol! We are. You just cant follow the thought despite me trying to explain from basics.

Aside from that, I agree with him on this:

i agree that background of forum is white (see i know what kind of discussion you like )

PS painting map in my color.. nice me like!

Statistics: Posted by justmakenewgame — 26 Dec 2014, 15:47

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T14:55:31+02:00

I'm going to make a point on the previous topic first, if you don't mind Flynn.
SetonsGrandpa, watch your tone. No one cares for it.

Aside from that, I agree with him on this:

Spoiler: show

The highest depth of inbattle micro you're going to find is engage, retreat, send horse from behind, have ranged units behind infantry.
The highest depth of strategy you'll find is "make more troops than the enemy, attack them, annex, no one cares you did that -> repeat until you painted the map your colour".

Statistics: Posted by Gorton — 26 Dec 2014, 14:55

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T13:53:40+02:00

CAN WE GET BACK TO THE TOPIC PLEASE. IF YOU DON'T WILL WILL FLAME YOU SEVERELY. THANKS.

Statistics: Posted by Flynn — 26 Dec 2014, 13:53

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T02:29:53+02:00

so people who take other people opinions as argument are the smartest I mean WHY would i make anyeffort includin english if you and 99% others has no brains and just use others opinions... like "oh Zock and CC are such good players lets listen to them!" dumb kids
I mean 10 yo probly and below - that's just their nature. Copy what big people do.

also this shit about me being troll - get 1 simple thing. All that crap flying around is from butthurted nerds. Call their stream bad - boom! pile of crap Noob - boom! 2 piles and so on.

Normally trolling is prevented in games and forums so dumb people would have some comfort and will keep paying. Why this lobby and forum follows same method - i dont know ) Cuz games made and maintained to make money while fighting trolling wouild also expand player base; will do thing that will help people progress so they stay for years in game. And here nobody cares. Top players, moderators, moders, coders hueders and visionik - all here to play. So all together they make work that simple cript would make. Like it is in dota for example.

AND you take opinion of those people and make it a valid argument for yourself and follow it. When they cant care less about subject How funny is that!

PS oh and really.. i dont care at all what you or any other would think, say or do. Cuz it will not go beyoung forum post. Just monkeys throwing shit like they when they are bored or angry or whatever. No meaning

Statistics: Posted by justmakenewgame — 26 Dec 2014, 02:29

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T01:38:34+02:00

SetonsGrandPa wrote:
lol mb you are just retarded and cant follow the dialog?

No, I'm showing you some undeserved level of respect by assuming you might be trying to say something instead of just dismissing you as an obvious troll trying to take the piss out of this forum.

Your english is below poor (forgivable), and your words follow each ocher without any apparent logic (make an effort).

SetonsGrandPa wrote:
i'm telling you that TW has 0 strategy and micro and anything

You telling me has less weight than aggregated reviews of critics and players feedback. Actually, you just "telling" something has no weight at all.

SetonsGrandPa wrote:
. And you continue as we both assume it has... 4/5 is what? strategy lvl or enjoyment level... so dumb gl

I continue with replying to you yes. I grant you that it is a bit "dumb" indeed. (I don't know what "dumb gl" means though)

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 26 Dec 2014, 01:38

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T01:29:24+02:00

lol mb you are just retarded and cant follow the dialog? i'm telling you that TW has 0 strategy and micro and anything . And you continue as we both assume it has... 4/5 is what? strategy lvl or enjoyment level... so dumb gl

Statistics: Posted by justmakenewgame — 26 Dec 2014, 01:29

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T01:12:38+02:00

SetonsGrandPa wrote:
y but you said about tw wichy ios even lower than sc. So its not really a game. With same result you could give movie as example. Like hey how about 300 spartans you dont have to micro there

I havn't spent much time on TW. Napoleon get 4/5 on Metacritic for examples, so I suppose many disagree with you.
The OP's question was about a game without micro. TW seems to focus heavily on strategy and tactics, with a mix of turn-by-turn (battle plan /strategy) and real time (battle tactics) , so it might be of interest to him. (and clearly has nothing in common with Starcraft, your opinion of which isn't relevant here)

Please make an effort when expressing yourself. Trying to decipher your ramblings gets tiresome.

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 26 Dec 2014, 01:12

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T01:01:54+02:00

y but you said about tw wichy ios even lower than sc. So its not really a game. With same result you could give movie as example. Like hey how about 300 spartans you dont have to micro there

Statistics: Posted by justmakenewgame — 26 Dec 2014, 01:01

Re: RTS game without micro?

2014-12-26T00:59:18+02:00

SetonsGrandPa wrote:
oh cmon... starcrap is lame.. and TW is more like watching a movie or history channel

who even said anything about Starcraft ? You're becoming senile grandpa

Statistics: Posted by Zoram — 26 Dec 2014, 00:59